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In the very likely event of the above happening what can we expect to happen to the UK Livestock Industry?
Cooperation? Never heard of itFairly major disruptions and instability to prices, is my best guess?
I would rather sh!t in my hands, then clap, than be a specialist, especially finishing stock, as someone will "be left holding the baby" in this scenario.
However, it would likely mean some major and long overdue changes need to be made, instead of a whole lot of the same: grading, marketing, and (likely) ownership of some of the processors which will either fold, or be purchased by new entities or cooperatives.
Possibly less smallholdings, some amalgamations, and farmers working for a salary instead of a pittance?
Maybe even cooperation to survive, but I wouldn't hold my breath on this.
No deal Brexit?
Maybe more of a NZ style "let the ewes manage themselves" system!
In the very likely event of the above happening what can we expect to happen to the UK Livestock Industry?
Wow,now that’s a list of things you don’t want to lose.Nobody knows, because it's too bad to think of and hence it will never happen. Here's a few examples from no deal.
Yes, all of these can be solved, but not in a day, a week or a month.
- No international recognition of airline pilot licences, hence all international flights shut down until we can make formal agreement with another certification body. Same for maintenance on all UK operators (BA, Virgin, etc.).
- No more ability for manufacturers to self certify against european standards, and no replacement UK standards, so no manufacturing of anything exportable and hence exporting industry will shut down (too many companies to mention).
- No access to many cancer treatments, medical isotopes, etc. as they come from Euratom Supply Agency
- No border agreements, hence no export of goods, people. Chaos on the roads of Kent, etc.
- No agreement on cross border taxation of electricity - so France, Holland and Ireland have to shut off the interconnects until given clear direction on what to do. No more membership of Euratom, so questionable if we can refuel our own nuclear power reactors. Can the grid survive without that - I doubt it.
As you write it down you realise it's too bad to imagine and would thus never happen. I hope. Whatever the deal, a deal is a deal and buys us time to put into place the next stage. Without a deal we have no transition and hence we need either a deal or cancellation of Art 50.
Anyone suggesting 'out means out, let's just tell them where to stick it' or 'no deal, let's go' has really no idea how much we need the EU.
The export balance isn’t so much about how much sheep meet we export as it is about the cuts we export. We import plenty of legs and chops and export lots of other cuts that have low domestic demand.
Lots of people have been saying that since I left school 10 years ago, we don’t seem to have progressed on it. It’s not just the cooking it’s the cost compared to other meats.Controversial maybe, but we need to break the thinking lamb is only good for leg roasts or chops with mint sauce yuck
I've been saying for years now we need to find better ways of cutting lamb. Easier cuts for simple/quick cooking... maybe even mince or dice a lot more of it! I dice up as much of my own lamb as I can and make casserole/pot/stew dishes from it
If we don't get with the times we will certainly fail as an industry
Our culture is softer, RSPCA would soon have growers in court for animal neglect for not checking stock hourly or at least daily Though I did read the other day about a British farmer who’s flock was stolen sometime during a 3 week window!
Controversial maybe, but we need to break the thinking lamb is only good for leg roasts or chops with mint sauce yuck
I've been saying for years now we need to find better ways of cutting lamb. Easier cuts for simple/quick cooking... maybe even mince or dice a lot more of it! I dice up as much of my own lamb as I can and make casserole/pot/stew dishes from it
If we don't get with the times we will certainly fail as an industry
Our culture is softer, RSPCA would soon have growers in court for animal neglect for not checking stock hourly or at least daily Though I did read the other day about a British farmer who’s flock was stolen sometime during a 3 week window!
Great britain must have been right in the shitter in the 70s if we need the EU that much