No Deal Brexit

[Highland Mule]

My love of mathes requires me to point out that the 50% is not necessarily correct.
As it isn't possible to properly quantify common sense or intelligence I was using the term average as.." 2. a standard or level that is considered to be typical or usual".
In this respect I'd consider the top and bottom 5-10% to be above and below average while the other 80- 90% are average.

IQ is a reasonably good measure of intelligence, albeit the basic tests can be gamed if you learn the system. Common sense, not so easy.

I work with a lot of _incredibly_ intelligent people, often with minimal common sense. I used to think I was bright, and a first in engineering probably means I am reasonably so, but I often feel well below average in meetings with the PhDs. Then I mention some practical social skill or the likes and I feel okay again.

Of course, the perfect balance is a bit of both intelligence and common sense, and I’m sure that we all think that we (and we alone) are the perfect blend of those.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

So its common sense that if you have a majority that wanted to leave against a parliment that did not backed up by London who did not , then there was going to be problems

 

[jendan]

So its common sense that if you have a majority that wanted to leave against a parliment that did not backed up by London who did not , then there was going to be problems

The problem was in the numbers,pure and simple.51.8%-48.2%.It was too even.If it had been 65%-35%,or even 60%-40%,then that would have been it.

 

[Two Tone]

IQ is a reasonably good measure of intelligence, albeit the basic tests can be gamed if you learn the system. Common sense, not so easy.

I work with a lot of _incredibly_ intelligent people, often with minimal common sense. I used to think I was bright, and a first in engineering probably means I am reasonably so, but I often feel well below average in meetings with the PhDs. Then I mention some practical social skill or the likes and I feel okay again.

Of course, the perfect balance is a bit of both intelligence and common sense, and I’m sure that we all think that we (and we alone) are the perfect blend of those.

What do you mean “ we all think that we (and we alone) are the perfect blend of those”?
We ARE the perfect blend!
Well you and I are, anyway.


Joking aside, the Interesting thing about that quote “People are entitled to their own opinions. What they are not entitled to are their own facts” is that when it comes to facts regarding Brexit, there aren’t any!

The only facts are that both sides have opinions and nearly all of them are Project fear!

 

[Northern territory]

The problem was in the numbers,pure and simple.51.8%-48.2%.It was too even.If it had been 65%-35%,or even 60%-40%,then that would have been it.

The problem with that argument is that if it had been 51.8 - 48.2 the other way we would have never heard another thing, or a million people descending in London.

 

[jendan]

The problem with that argument is that if it had been 51.8 - 48.2 the other way we would have never heard another thing, or a million people descending in London.

Probably right,but you need a bigger margin to change something that is hugely important.

 

[rob1]

Probably right,but you need a bigger margin to change something that is hugely important.

Why a majority is a majority, very annoying to the losers to fall so near but thats life

 

[Highland Mule]

The problem with that argument is that if it had been 51.8 - 48.2 the other way we would have never heard another thing, or a million people descending in London.

I think Farage has been quoted as saying he wouldn’t have accepted 48:52. @Bomber_Harris , can you confirm as you’re the man with the quote machine?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

What I said was that if remain had won by 500 votes we would have never heard of Brexit again as leavers are honorable people, not sore lossers . Like the boy I used to play cricket with .he was the only one who could afford a bat and stumps . If he was bowled out first ball he used to up stumps and head home with the bat . He could not handle losing

 

[Highland Mule]

What I said was that if remain had won by 500 votes we would have never heard of Brexit again as leavers are honorable people, not sore losses. Like the boy I used to play cricket with .he was the only one who could afford a bat and stumps . If he was bowled out first ball he used to up stumps and head home with the bat . He could not handle losing

It’s laudible, and it may apply to you, but it’s simply not true - Farage warned us of that before the referendum happened.

 

[Bomber_Harris]

I think Farage has been quoted as saying he wouldn’t have accepted 48:52. @Bomber_Harris , can you confirm as you’re the man with the quote machine?

I can indeed confirm to the House that my good friend, the Honorable member for Scottish Highlands, is correct in his statement that he gave some moments ago

Mr Farage, the right Honourable member for Sweet F.A., did declare in the run-up to the referendum that he would consider a 52:48 result (if Leave lost) to be "unfinished business by a long way"

as well as numerous billboards, we also displayed his quote onto the side of Big Ben using an industrial outdoor projector

- Bomber

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Since when has Farage run the country

 

[jendan]

Why a majority is a majority, very annoying to the losers to fall so near but thats life

Like one woman said on Question Time,"You wouldnt even change the constitution of your local Golf Course with a vote as close as that"

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

Since when has Farage run the country

Only in his own mind.

 

[jendan]

What I said was that if remain had won by 500 votes we would have never heard of Brexit again as leavers are honorable people, not sore lossers . Like the boy I used to play cricket with .he was the only one who could afford a bat and stumps . If he was bowled out first ball he used to up stumps and head home with the bat . He could not handle losing

Ha Ha,you could say that about loads of situations in life.We have all experienced it.Plenty folk on this Forum are like that as well,spit their dummy out if they dont like something said.

 

[arcobob]

Ha Ha,you could say that about loads of situations in life.We have all experienced it.Plenty folk on this Forum are like that as well,spit their dummy out if they dont like something said.

I can think of a few including some who have chosen to leave this country and gone to live elsewhere.

 

[Highland Mule]

I can think of a few including some who have chosen to leave this country and gone to live elsewhere.

Again, Farage said he would do that if Brexit turned out badly. It’s a luxury that not many of us have.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

What are you so afraid of about leaving

 

[Highland Mule]

What are you so afraid of about leaving

I could turn that question around and ask you what would be so much better about staying, but: since you asked so nicely.

I like having access to cancer diagnostics
I don’t want us to pay 100% of the costs of running an internationally recognised standards agency, an aviation safety agency, a centre for disease control, chemicals licensing.
I prefer to be able to trade with my nearest customers without barriers
I like the protection of worker rights, health and safety, courts of justice, etc that comes from being in the E.U.
I like the money I get from being in the CAP
I like the coordinated approach to science that comes from being in a higher club - that we can afford to collaborate on things that we couldn’t manage on our own ITER being one
I like that I can travel around Europe without need for a visa, that I can work in other countries without beurocracy
I like that this country can act as a conduit for trade to loads more and that our taxes are lower and standards of living are higher as a result of the money that the government makes from handling that trade.
I like that our police have access to Europol and can benefit from the sharing of intelligence on criminals.


And I don’t want to lose any of that.

Now, what am I going to gain by Brexit?

 

[Ncap]

I could turn that question around and ask you what would be so much better about staying, but: since you asked so nicely.

I like having access to cancer diagnostics
I don’t want us to pay 100% of the costs of running an internationally recognised standards agency, an aviation safety agency, a centre for disease control, chemicals licensing.
I prefer to be able to trade with my nearest customers without barriers
I like the protection of worker rights, health and safety, courts of justice, etc that comes from being in the E.U.
I like the money I get from being in the CAP
I like the coordinated approach to science that comes from being in a higher club - that we can afford to collaborate on things that we couldn’t manage on our own ITER being one
I like that I can travel around Europe without need for a visa, that I can work in other countries without beurocracy
I like that this country can act as a conduit for trade to loads more and that our taxes are lower and standards of living are higher as a result of the money that the government makes from handling that trade.
I like that our police have access to Europol and can benefit from the sharing of intelligence on criminals.


And I don’t want to lose any of that.

Now, what am I going to gain by Brexit?

Very well summarized! Perhaps I could suggest a couple of things - blue passports! (though we could have had those anyway) 'sovereignty' (though the government's own white paper pointed out we never lost it) and a fast rewind back to the 1950s.