No Deal Brexit

curlietailz

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Arable Farmer
Location
Sedgefield
I saw a programme about Polish lorry drivers going home and that a lot of lorry drivers in Uk are from overseas

They said that there wasn’t enough Uk lorry drivers to deliver the food to the supermarkets/shops

So I decided I’m buying a few chickens before March 29th My neighbour mills spelt wheat into flour and another further afield is a dairy farm.
So With a bit of bartering I’ll be able to make pancakes and Bread and eggy sandwiches if all the food dries up !!
 
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balerman

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Location
N Devon
This is all getting very serious now,they say that no deal wont happen,but no credible alternative has been offered,the mood of the country will be very dark if we have to go through another referendum.Personally I think leave would win again with a bigger majority,what then?
 
I do wonder what on earth the MP’s are going to discuss once Brexit is finally completed either way.... or are the hard timers still there at 3-4am pushing things through like they were a few years ago?
That's one of the issues. Everything else is on the back burner, which is as it should be given the gravity of the situation. But there's potentially plenty of other important business which there is simply no time for.
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
I say a programme about Polish lorry drivers going home and that a lot of lorry drivers in Uk are from overseas

They said that there wasn’t enough Uk lorry drivers to deliver the food to the supermarkets/shops

So I decided I’m buying a few chickens before March 29th My neighbour mills spelt wheat into flour and another further afield is a dairy farm.
So With a bit of bartering I’ll be able to make pancakes and Bread and eggy sandwiches if all the food dries up !!


.....perhaps a better plan would be to get an HGV licence (y)
 
This is all getting very serious now,they say that no deal wont happen,but no credible alternative has been offered,the mood of the country will be very dark if we have to go through another referendum.Personally I think leave would win again with a bigger majority,what then?
YouGov two days ago:

'Overall, 41% of people now think it was right for Britain to vote Leave, while 47% believe it was the wrong decision – but this does not necessarily translate into support for stopping the process.

Asked what we should do next, 28% of people want to stop Brexit entirely, while 8% would hold a second referendum to decide matters.

Only 15% think Britain should accept the deal and move on, while another 9% would like to reject the deal and seek to re-open negotiations. Just over a fifth (22%) would leave with No Deal.'

So the populace have no idea either.
 

farmerm

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Location
Shropshire
YouGov two days ago:

'Overall, 41% of people now think it was right for Britain to vote Leave, while 47% believe it was the wrong decision – but this does not necessarily translate into support for stopping the process.

Asked what we should do next, 28% of people want to stop Brexit entirely, while 8% would hold a second referendum to decide matters.

Only 15% think Britain should accept the deal and move on, while another 9% would like to reject the deal and seek to re-open negotiations. Just over a fifth (22%) would leave with No Deal.'

So the populace have no idea either.
Stopped Brexit entirely is undemocratic
The May deal was rejected by parliament and public clearly not interested in it either
Brussels clearly not interested in renegotiations
No one wants it but only a No Deal or No Brexit referendum can move us forward.
 

Hilly

Member
This is all getting very serious now,they say that no deal wont happen,but no credible alternative has been offered,the mood of the country will be very dark if we have to go through another referendum.Personally I think leave would win again with a bigger majority,what then?
Sadly i thin they take a wrong turn trouble will ensue.
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
May has trick up her sleeve, she knew this would happen , what is she up too ?
Trick maybe she thinks this position means she could now convince EU to buckle if they believe they need to concede more to avoid a no deal. More likely she thinks she can run down clock and thus force MPs to vote her deal rather than the default result of no deal.
 
Trick maybe she thinks this position means she could now convince EU to buckle if they believe they need to concede more to avoid a no deal. More likely she thinks she can run down clock and thus force MPs to vote her deal rather than the default result of no deal.
Surely everyone, of whatever stripe, thinks that her deal or minor variant thereof is a non-starter now? Chucked out by the Commons and no support from the people.
 

yellowbelly

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Livestock Farmer
Location
N.Lincs
May has trick up her sleeve, she knew this would happen , what is she up too ?
Sadly, there appears to be no plan or any trick up her sleeve. The big error was the Tories electing a leader who voted remain - her heart wasn't in it then and it's not in it now. They should have had an out and out Brexiteer, but they were all too sh!t scared to have a go, prefering to remain 'sniping' from the sidelines without having to come up with any sort of plan.
 

Nithsdale

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Livestock Farmer
Sadly, there appears to be no plan or any trick up her sleeve. The big error was the Tories electing a leader who voted remain - her heart wasn't in it then and it's not in it now. They should have had an out and out Brexiteer, but they were all too sh!t scared to have a go, prefering to remain 'sniping' from the sidelines without having to come up with any sort of plan.


They didn't elect her - she was last person standing.

The leave supporters all jumped ship.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
YouGov two days ago:

'Overall, 41% of people now think it was right for Britain to vote Leave, while 47% believe it was the wrong decision – but this does not necessarily translate into support for stopping the process.

Asked what we should do next, 28% of people want to stop Brexit entirely, while 8% would hold a second referendum to decide matters.

Only 15% think Britain should accept the deal and move on, while another 9% would like to reject the deal and seek to re-open negotiations. Just over a fifth (22%) would leave with No Deal.'

So the populace have no idea either.
It's fantastic, all the uncertainty has certainly driven the pound up a bit ;)

:angelic:
 

alex04w

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Co Antrim
Surely everyone, of whatever stripe, thinks that her deal or minor variant thereof is a non-starter now? Chucked out by the Commons and no support from the people.

The DUP have said they will vote for Mrs May's deal if one of three changes is made to it:-

1 The backstop is removed,
2 The backstop is time limited, or
3 There is a unilateral right to withdraw from the backstop.

If the DUP move to voting for the deal, a lot of conservatives would do the same and it would most likely pass through Parliament. However, the EU have no intention of allowing the cash cow (the UK) to leave, so they will never allow one of the above three changes. They just hope to hold out till the UK votes to remain or signs a deal that effectively means they remain.

Therefore leaving with no deal is the only option remaining!
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
Suspect it's more that industry have been given some hope that Brexit might not happen at all. It's no secret that any form of Brexit is going to be bad for the economy of the UK.
It could be.

Or it could be that the UK is giving off all the vibes of a drowning dolphin, and sensing weakness, the world's sharks are circling it.
I know it prompted me to throw some money in the ring before Christmas, I can only speculate what others are making of it.
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
It could be.

Or it could be that the UK is giving off all the vibes of a drowning dolphin, and sensing weakness, the world's sharks are circling it.
I know it prompted me to throw some money in the ring before Christmas, I can only speculate what others are making of it.

If we are going to sink, isn't it time to be selling £ ? I don't understand macroeconomics and currency speculation very well, but I would have thought the pound would go the way of the Zimbabwe dollar if we start drowning.
 

Al R

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Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
If we are going to sink, isn't it time to be selling £ ? I don't understand macroeconomics and currency speculation very well, but I would have thought the pound would go the way of the Zimbabwe dollar if we start drowning.

I don’t understand it brilliantly either but could the Euro fall through its arse aswell if no deal? I have been looking a lot at old currencies recently in foreign countries and there’s a lot where they’ve had to set a date to divide the value of their money by 1,000 to bring it back to somewhere reasonable, Italy was one of the countries, a 500,000 note was suddenly worth 500. o_O
 

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