No Deal Brexit

Devil_0101

Member
Not a great deal of comfort for Ireland there from the EU, who seem to be positioning themselves to abandon the country. I've always said that Ireland will find out how many friends it has in the EU come the crunch, I'd say somewhere between zilch and zero on that showing.

Well, under the EU there was no british army to shoot civiles and no ira bombs to kill civiles back, i guess the EU somehow has done something good. The "fear" is that without the EU some old conflicts could come back, maybe not the "old" ira, but do at the least expect some tensions in there. The ireland itself is not anymore a poor country, the NI is ireland, maybe the british who moved there do not like it but they are not in britannia, and what keeps them to get along is the free movement of people and goodies and same job opportunities, this is what was happening under the EU because the EU promotes the above everywhere in the zones. Due to the brexit you cannot pretend to have the same rights the EU was giving to you. This is my little thought but i think those irish should just reunify and live as a nation, that border will always create problems. Regards.
 
Well, under the EU there was no british army to shoot civiles and no ira bombs to kill civiles back, i guess the EU somehow has done something good. The "fear" is that without the EU some old conflicts could come back, maybe not the "old" ira, but do at the least expect some tensions in there. The ireland itself is not anymore a poor country, the NI is ireland, maybe the british who moved there do not like it but they are not in britannia, and what keeps them to get along is the free movement of people and goodies and same job opportunities, this is what was happening under the EU because the EU promotes the above everywhere in the zones. Due to the brexit you cannot pretend to have the same rights the EU was giving to you. This is my little thought but i think those irish should just reunify and live as a nation, that border will always create problems. Regards.

What an utter crock of bilge.
 

Scribus

Member
Location
Central Atlantic
Well, under the EU there was no british army to shoot civiles and no ira bombs to kill civiles back, i guess the EU somehow has done something good. The "fear" is that without the EU some old conflicts could come back, maybe not the "old" ira, but do at the least expect some tensions in there. The ireland itself is not anymore a poor country, the NI is ireland, maybe the british who moved there do not like it but they are not in britannia, and what keeps them to get along is the free movement of people and goodies and same job opportunities, this is what was happening under the EU because the EU promotes the above everywhere in the zones. Due to the brexit you cannot pretend to have the same rights the EU was giving to you. This is my little thought but i think those irish should just reunify and live as a nation, that border will always create problems. Regards.

I'm not sure that was totally down to the EU but, as mentioned before, the EU did allow an escape from the impasse in that the general tend was towards a United States of Europe. This would do away with the question of there being two countries on one island, as, in effect, it would eventually become one and the differences deflate to become a matter of regional rather than national concern. Looking at the Good Friday agreement one gets a sense that was the premise it was based upon.

But that idea is now well and truly binned!

I'm not entirely convinced about the free movement of Brits to Ireland encouraging their movement, there has always been a great deal of intermingling between the two over the centuries, it's nothing new, but it's been convenient to ignore. How many Irish have moved to the UK for work? Far more than British to Ireland I should think.
 

Devil_0101

Member
How many Irish have moved to the UK for work? Far more than British to Ireland I should think.
This is quite true, but in % how many british civiles and companies did move to NI, a small piece of ireland and what influence did they have? Much more i guess than those irish in UK. Regards.
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
I read something about the y2k bug the other day. It was real, and it’s only because so much effort was spent in sorting it that we didn’t have a disaster. Of course it was never going to kill your toaster, but it would have taken out chunks of the electricity supply grid if they hadn’t done the work up front.
 

caveman

Member
Location
East Sussex.
I read something about the y2k bug the other day. It was real, and it’s only because so much effort was spent in sorting it that we didn’t have a disaster. Of course it was never going to kill your toaster, but it would have taken out chunks of the electricity supply grid if they hadn’t done the work up front.

Mandy Rice Davies
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
I read something about the y2k bug the other day. It was real, and it’s only because so much effort was spent in sorting it that we didn’t have a disaster. Of course it was never going to kill your toaster, but it would have taken out chunks of the electricity supply grid if they hadn’t done the work up front.

Oh, it was real alright. Gets right up Mrs Muck's nose when folk say nothing happened. That's because she and thousands like her worked for months to check and rewrite code to make exactly sure nothing happened.
 

br jones

Member
BSE-CJD epidemic, your toaster wouldnt handle the melenium and the world would end, sars, bird flu, swine flu and now no deal brexit. All meant to be the end of civilisation as we know it.

One thing i can guarantee. The sun will get up on the 30th of march, just like it does evey other day.....
Don't be daft ,your in Scotland ,you don't see the sun in march
 

hoff135

Member
Location
scotland
I wouldnt compare leaving the eu without a deal to dropping the bomb on Japan.

Interesting point though, considering we got through the blitz and 2 world wars now we cant handle leaving the eu.

The seeds are sown though, if there is a no deal brexit, there may well be panic buying and disorder. Not because of actual problems but because of the frenzy whipped up but the media. Could become a self fulfilling prophecy. Broadcasting and publishing scare stories is not going to help anything.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
I wouldnt compare leaving the eu without a deal to dropping the bomb on Japan.

Interesting point though, considering we got through the blitz and 2 world wars now we cant handle leaving the eu.

The seeds are sown though, if there is a no deal brexit, there may well be panic buying and disorder. Not because of actual problems but because of the frenzy whipped up but the media. Could become a self fulfilling prophecy. Broadcasting and publishing scare stories is not going to help anything.
lets face it 1/2 inch of snow forecast and some hoard enough for a month
see somewhere that if during the fuel protests everyone had just bought fuel as they always did ie when their tank was nearly empty then there wouldn't have been any problems so it wasn't the blockades that caused the problem it was the panic buying
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
Oh, it was real alright. Gets right up Mrs Muck's nose when folk say nothing happened. That's because she and thousands like her worked for months to check and rewrite code to make exactly sure nothing happened.
So the scare stories that the world would end didnt happen because the problems were sorted and it will be just the same with the no deal brexit. Already we know the planes will keep flying the lorries will still be driven despite the scare stories they wouldnt, a few days token problems to cover the lies and it will be business as usual with a bit of added paperwork
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
So the scare stories that the world would end didnt happen because the problems were sorted and it will be just the same with the no deal brexit. Already we know the planes will keep flying the lorries will still be driven despite the scare stories they wouldnt, a few days token problems to cover the lies and it will be business as usual with a bit of added paperwork

That's the problem, nobody is sorting it and the clock is ticking. I won't happen by magic.
 

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