No Deal Brexit

[czechmate]

I’m in your club. I wonder how many others who voted to remain now feel the same way? All I hope is that this is a wake up call for the few (and I mean few) who pursue the full Political and economic union. For at the end of the day it’s not the populous of the member states craving this goal, but a relatively small number of politicians.

I don’t know about many people to know one way or the other Martin.
Myself, I saw before and much more now (après Covid) a potential nasty threat from China - therefore, I like being in a big gang

 

[Ashtree]

They have never liked us since we sank their fleet - TWICE - and this could be the third time, but having said that I voted to remain!

Ah yes! Nothing like a bit of jingoism! It was a core tactic of the forefathers of Brexit. The jingoistic one liners, were perfect click bait for the Sun readers..
Perfect!

Watched Boris and Von der Leyen stand side by side giving a few words to the press. Such a difference! Babbling, shifting Boris with modestly clear diction. Cool, calm, Von der Leyen, in command of the detail, and with crystal clear English! I had to ask my Mrs., which one of them was the German! She said “The big blonde fella looks German, and I have no idea what he is saying, so he must be the one”! Then she says, “the lady looks beautiful and speaks so well, she would make the perfect Queen when Ma’am pops her clogs”! My Mrs., is so insightful.

 

[Martin Holden]

I don’t know about many people to know one way or the other Martin.
Myself, I saw before and much more now (après Covid) a potential nasty threat from China - therefore, I like being in a big gang

Big gang small gang, who knows what is best or whether it’s even relevant. A trade and more type of economic war with China is a one the world can’t afford and will not benefit from. To be less reliant on China and other Brick nations, we need our own to be much more self sufficient. Sadly ours got wrecked in the late 60’s and 70’s by the unions. Sure workers rights weren’t good back then, but in terms of labour relations and the spread of wealth, we haven’t moved on that much in 40 years. Anyway, “C’est la Vie”

 

[M-J-G]

I’m in your club. I wonder how many others who voted to remain now feel the same way? All I hope is that this is a wake up call for the few (and I mean few) who pursue the full Political and economic union. For at the end of the day it’s not the populous of the member states craving this goal, but a relatively small number of politicians.

From what I gather the UK is classed as long gone and off the radar with general public in the EU.

A bit like we are with the EU, it's gone.

Why aren't out political leaders doing the same and just moving on

 

[Danllan]

From what I gather the UK is classed as long gone and off the radar with general public in the EU.

A bit like we are with the EU, it's gone.

Why aren't out political leaders doing the same and just moving on

Quite right, I've a small share in an engineering business, we export globally with a significant amount - gradually reducing as a proportion although not in real terms - going over to Europe. Some time ago we did a deal with a German firm and, not knowing what the outcome of the Brexit negotiations would be, we agreed a price and to split the difference in any necessary increase should there be post-Brexit financial penalties. I've just learned that two further orders have been placed on the same basis, by other firms from Germany, and we have good hopes of the same from some Italian companies and a Spanish firm.

This method of trade made sense to us when we first suggested it, and clearly did so to our clients too, then and now. It is just a pragmatic and practical way of ensuring business carries on, which it always will.

 

[Ashtree]

Here am I, swinging in the drive after a long day at the office. A wonderful deal has been struck, which I later outlined to my more significant half, over glass of English wine.
And with the bottle half gone, I mentioned proudly that the deal, had the possibility, indeed high likelihood of increase costs, which were not at this point known or understood. But that was ok, I reassured her. The Germans were really anxious to sign up to paying for half, of these unknown costs. And then I mentioned that numerous other clients wanted and would get the same deal.
It’s then she banged her glass in the table, reached for her phone and called her sister the psychologist. They had a pretty serious discussion, and I heard my name mentioned more than once.
Then she returned to the sitting room, took my temperature, and icily told me keep Tuesday free, for a professional appointment.
I wonder what she has in mind? Any ideas guys?

 

[Courier]

Quite right, I've a small share in an engineering business, we export globally with a significant amount - gradually reducing as a proportion although not in real terms - going over to Europe. Some time ago we did a deal with a German firm and, not knowing what the outcome of the Brexit negotiations would be, we agreed a price and to split the difference in any necessary increase should there be post-Brexit financial penalties. I've just learned that two further orders have been placed on the same basis, by other firms from Germany, and we have good hopes of the same from some Italian companies and a Spanish firm.

This method of trade made sense to us when we first suggested it, and clearly did so to our clients too, then and now. It is just a pragmatic and practical way of ensuring business carries on, which it always will.

Agree that businesses will always find a way to trade throughout the world, just so long as the economics stack up !

 

[Ashtree]

Agree that businesses will always find a way to trade throughout the world, just so long as the economics stack up !

Yeah of course. These days hard headed business men and women all around Europe, are calling suppliers in Britain, telling them not to worry. They simply are more than happy to pay more for the same product, should a tariff come to pass.
Its no problem they say ???????????????????

TFF is such a wonderful platform for free dissemination delusional thinking. Clive is to be commended for making it happen. I’m sure the deluded get much needed succour, from being able to “share”!

 

[Courier]

Agree that businesses will always find a way to trade throughout the world, just so long as the economics stack up !

Yeah of course. These days hard headed business men and women all around Europe, are calling suppliers in Britain, telling them not to worry. They simply are more than happy to pay more for the same product, should a tariff come to pass.
Its no problem they say ???????????????????

TFF is such a wonderful platform for free dissemination delusional thinking. Clive is to be commended for making it happen. I’m sure the deluded get much needed succour, from being able to “share”!

Oh, the irony.....

 

[brigadoon]

They have never liked us since we sank their fleet - TWICE - and this could be the third time, but having said that I voted to remain!

OT - but some years ago I was on an offshore vessel working off Alexandria

We had a French Offshore Manager - a real Astrerix the Gaul type

we had to shelter for bad weather (off Aboukir) and at the daily meeting he asked "WTF is an Egyptian Island called Nelsons Island????"

It was a pleasure to explain - there was a battle and the French came in a poor second

 

[Christoph1945]

OT - but some years ago I was on an offshore vessel working off Alexandria

We had a French Offshore Manager - a real Astrerix the Gaul type

we had to shelter for bad weather (off Aboukir) and at the daily meeting he asked "WTF is an Egyptian Island called Nelsons Island????"

It was a pleasure to explain - there was a battle and the French came in a poor second

Battle of the Nile, eh?

I was born on Good Friday, March 30th, 1945, whilst American troops were coming out of the Hurtgen Forest Battle and some were moving into the Battle of the Bulge and our lads were moving more and more inland from the landings in Normandy and the Russians were driving the Germans back towards Berlin, ready to crush German National Socialism.

Dad's brother John was still in Burma, having assisted the Japanese to build a railway, and would 'never' return home; leaving the whole family to wonder what actually became of him. In later years two of my older brothers were called up for military service; one during the Korean war and the other during the Suez crisis but he served in Cyprus.

I had always dreamed of seeing an end to war and 'hopefully' a United Europe, with one currency, a central government, and 'perhaps' a common language. In 1984 I had the opportunity to travel across Europe by car (driving alone) and cruised through the UK, Holland, West Germany, the DDR, and Poland; always amazed that where I was cruising many, on all sides, had given their lives just to gain (or lose) a mile and now we were almost united!

Sadly, with Brexit, not only have my dreams of being part of a United Europe been dashed but my beloved United Kingdome is being turned into the Disunited Kingdom, whilst politicians with their self serving egos gallop towards disaster and are taking us all with them.

OK, I was out voted and that, I suppose, is democracy.

 

[Pasty]

Ah yes! Nothing like a bit of jingoism! It was a core tactic of the forefathers of Brexit. The jingoistic one liners, were perfect click bait for the Sun readers..
Perfect!

Watched Boris and Von der Leyen stand side by side giving a few words to the press. Such a difference! Babbling, shifting Boris with modestly clear diction. Cool, calm, Von der Leyen, in command of the detail, and with crystal clear English! I had to ask my Mrs., which one of them was the German! She said “The big blonde fella looks German, and I have no idea what he is saying, so he must be the one”! Then she says, “the lady looks beautiful and speaks so well, she would make the perfect Queen when Ma’am pops her clogs”! My Mrs., is so insightful.

Uh, clearly not if she has no idea who they are.

 

[Pasty]

Quite right, I've a small share in an engineering business, we export globally with a significant amount - gradually reducing as a proportion although not in real terms - going over to Europe. Some time ago we did a deal with a German firm and, not knowing what the outcome of the Brexit negotiations would be, we agreed a price and to split the difference in any necessary increase should there be post-Brexit financial penalties. I've just learned that two further orders have been placed on the same basis, by other firms from Germany, and we have good hopes of the same from some Italian companies and a Spanish firm.

This method of trade made sense to us when we first suggested it, and clearly did so to our clients too, then and now. It is just a pragmatic and practical way of ensuring business carries on, which it always will.

People cant seem to grasp that but then they've probably never run a business which deals internationally with them doing the actual deals and not a middle man.

 

[Pasty]

Here am I, swinging in the drive after a long day at the office. A wonderful deal has been struck, which I later outlined to my more significant half, over glass of English wine.
And with the bottle half gone, I mentioned proudly that the deal, had the possibility, indeed high likelihood of increase costs, which were not at this point known or understood. But that was ok, I reassured her. The Germans were really anxious to sign up to paying for half, of these unknown costs. And then I mentioned that numerous other clients wanted and would get the same deal.
It’s then she banged her glass in the table, reached for her phone and called her sister the psychologist. They had a pretty serious discussion, and I heard my name mentioned more than once.
Then she returned to the sitting room, took my temperature, and icily told me keep Tuesday free, for a professional appointment.
I wonder what she has in mind? Any ideas guys?

A pegging.

 

[M-J-G]

If I were an Irish beef producer I'd be getting into sheep, thd French and going to be looking for lamb soon

 

[czechmate]

If I were an Irish beef producer I'd be getting into sheep, thd French and going to be looking for lamb soon

good call

I only wish well for the UK but maybe some individual sheep “farmers” shedding tears of joy for their brexit victory deserve the 25 quid lambs my bro used to get

 

[M-J-G]

good call

I only wish well for the UK but maybe some individual sheep “farmers” shedding tears of joy for their brexit victory deserve the 25 quid lambs my bro used to get

I suggested it some time ago but nobody cared to comment

 

[czechmate]

I suggested it some time ago but nobody cared to comment

Is a horny young buck with a sex goddess offering it on a plate, thinking about safe sax?

 

[M-J-G]

On the fishing front, I have no clue about this, so can any of the more clued up members explain.

OK we have the right to catch more fish now we have no deal.
Do we eat it all here?
If not where is our excess sold to, and are we ready to sell our added excess now we can catch more?

 

[WRXppp]

If I were an Irish beef producer I'd be getting into sheep, thd French and going to be looking for lamb soon

Yep the lamb they send here will go straight to France to replace UK lamb and they will get much more for it!
The last few day’s I have poured through many websites to gather a picture of where us lamb producers are regards imports, exports from where and too, it really is a maze and a web of intrigue especially when you try to figure out who has FTA’s or quota into which country, also to factor in is the increase, after many years decline, of consumption in the UK itself since Covid, coming off a year of excellent prices, yes the future looks hard, though if through what I have ascertained maybe not as bleak as I thought it could be.