No more new cars or vans in 9 years

[kiwi pom]

Maybes it would but you have too buy or pay for that vehicle
Mine all all mine thats the problem. wholey owned as they stand end of.
and i actually like the diesel engine & have no issues with them.

Iam not being hostile to them apart from that LEAF there is some v smart electric cars out there & likely too be far more excepted as time go's on
That Porsche Taycan is a stunning example

Porsche Taycan 4S

A vast range of emotions. The all-electric Taycan 4S with Performance Battery, high driving dynamics and a flat flyline. Pure Porsche E-Performance.

www.porsche.com

But soz i'll never have the income to fund one.
Id still rather be piloting the 911 Turbo S tho everytime

Your diesels will need replacing eventually though, which is what I meant.
I suspect as electric use increases tax on diesel cars and their fuel will increase to encourage change. There'll probably be some kind of scrappage scheme too.
I hate diesel cars, other than a van and a shogun everything has always been petrol, way nicer to run especially with the emissions junk on the new ones.

With very low mileage, I'm not sure that an electric car would be a good idea. I'd probably advocate a petrol car without any emissions stuff.

Is there a problem with low use?
I have a 2017 petrol that will last me for years at current usage as I'm less than 10,000 K's a year. I was thinking electric would be ideal?

 

[Highland Mule]

Is there a problem with low use?
I have a 2017 petrol that will last me for years at current usage as I'm less than 10,000 K's a year. I was thinking electric would be ideal?

Problem? No. I was working on the basis that with the additional cost (financial and environmental) of purchase/ manufacture, the case for an electric car isn't there with low mileage.

 

[Farma Parma]

Your diesels will need replacing eventually though, which is what I meant.
I suspect as electric use increases tax on diesel cars and their fuel will increase to encourage change. There'll probably be some kind of scrappage scheme too.
I hate diesel cars, other than a van and a shogun everything has always been petrol, way nicer to run especially with the emissions junk on the new ones.



Is there a problem with low use?
I have a 2017 petrol that will last me for years at current usage as I'm less than 10,000 K's a year. I was thinking electric would be ideal?

Yeah everything needs rep one day but my motto is buy them right & keep them a long time
unless your bored with it or its starting too cost too much too run then a change needs too take place.
If your balance sheet can afford it of course.
i had my fill of petrol cars in the past & no start off torque, rotting exhausts within 2yrs from new.
all them revs whats that all about?
when you get behind the wheel of most diesel cars thats been around over the last 15plus years there is such a difference in all of the above mentioned
16yr old past Diesel car here its still on its factory exhaust, no welding nothing. just about to clock 85000miles.
Honestly i went to a track day oh heck back in summer of 2005 & drove the petrol turbo version of the same TDI car i had bought new that year & yes it was faster
but i actually told the Touring Car driver id rather drive my TDI it had more get up n go from low down than its 200 odd hp petrol version.
and also 50mpg all day long. where as the petrol if your were lucky did 35mpg

 

[Cowabunga]

Good job a dont smoke then neither eh.... it made me save up & buy (Outright) my last car much easier.
hey we all buy or hire or whatever its called these days? what we see fit & whats wrong in that.
Me buy n drive a Nissan Leaf you are off your head i hope i never set foot in such a heap of #####
soz nothing Nissan makes remotly floats my boat except maybes hearing them GT-Rs get to 100mph v quickly & the fantastic noise they make.
such a shame the likes of F1 is dead in the water for me now them big engines are long gone. there like hairdriers now... so boring.

Anyhow how are you buying this fab new Diesel car your not really buying it tho? yet its not on a PCP so what is it ? but its costing just over fag packet money ? well confused.
ive had zero buying costs in over 5 years on the last car i bought outright.
Both my vehicles passed there annual MOT just a couple of weeks ago & neither had a single issue.

Oh by the way you can actually get Electric Cars on 0% finance these days so why not make the leap if there so good? #puzzled?

I'm going for a Business Contract Hire.
My next car after this one will hopefully be a Tesla Model Y, which will be in full production at Berlin by then and will have had two years to sort any early new-factory bugs out.

 

[Cowabunga]

With very low mileage, I'm not sure that an electric car would be a good idea. I'd probably advocate a petrol car without any emissions stuff.

Where do you find such a thing in the UK where our emission standards are much higher than in NZ? All UK petrol cars will be fuel injected with catalytic convertors from probably 2005 or earlier and I wouldn't entertain running a literally stinking older model with no emissions controls to speak of. Certainly my Land Cruiser 4.2 diesel has a cat and EGR and it was bought new in 1998.

So how old are you thinking is ideal. It wouldn't be a car from when you were between 17 and 19 years of age yourself would it? That seems to be the common theme for people who wear rose coloured spectacles when it comes to the ideal era for things mechanical.

 

[Highland Mule]

Where do you find such a thing in the UK where our emission standards are much higher than in NZ? All UK petrol cars will be fuel injected with catalytic convertors from probably 2005 or earlier and I wouldn't entertain running a literally stinking older model with no emissions controls to speak of. Certainly my Land Cruiser 4.2 diesel has a cat and EGR and it was bought new in 1998.

So how old are you thinking is ideal. It wouldn't be a car from when you were between 17 and 19 years of age yourself would it? That seems to be the common theme for people who wear rose coloured spectacles when it comes to the ideal era for things mechanical.

I wasn't thinking so much of catalysts as of avoiding active systems - EGR, AdBlue, maybe even DPF (I know it's not active but it seems prone to failure. Not really heard of many troubles with the petrol catalysts compared to the diesel systems, but perhaps I'm off with that.

 

[two-cylinder]

Yeah everything needs rep one day but my motto is buy them right & keep them a long time
unless your bored with it or its starting too cost too much too run then a change needs too take place.
If your balance sheet can afford it of course.
i had my fill of petrol cars in the past & no start off torque, rotting exhausts within 2yrs from new.
all them revs whats that all about?
when you get behind the wheel of most diesel cars thats been around over the last 15plus years there is such a difference in all of the above mentioned
16yr old past Diesel car here its still on its factory exhaust, no welding nothing. just about to clock 85000miles.
Honestly i went to a track day oh heck back in summer of 2005 & drove the petrol turbo version of the same TDI car i had bought new that year & yes it was faster
but i actually told the Touring Car driver id rather drive my TDI it had more get up n go from low down than its 200 odd hp petrol version.
and also 50mpg all day long. where as the petrol if your were lucky did 35mpg

Compare like with like, it is not comparable to compare a petrol of the past with a modern diesel.
A modern turbo petrol road car compares very favourably with a diesel.
Economy is not much different, in straight line acceleration the diesel will leave the line slightly quicker due to greater torque, but by the time the diesel driver has to change to second the petrol will have caught up and then get away due to greater rev band.
Replacing exhausts is a thing of the past, few petrol exhausts need changing before a decade or so old now.
A petrol car will have longer service intervals than the diesel and services will be cheaper.
A petrol car is also less of a liability as it ages, as engine repairs are cheaper.

 

[Farma Parma]

Compare like with like, it is not comparable to compare a petrol of the past with a modern diesel.
A modern turbo petrol road car compares very favourably with a diesel.
Economy is not much different, in straight line acceleration the diesel will leave the line slightly quicker due to greater torque, but by the time the diesel driver has to change to second the petrol will have caught up and then get away due to greater rev band.
Replacing exhausts is a thing of the past, few petrol exhausts need changing before a decade or so old now.
A petrol car will have longer service intervals than the diesel and services will be cheaper.
A petrol car is also less of a liability as it ages, as engine repairs are cheaper.

Hey you might be right but unfortunatly id still rather have a diesel
nowt wrong with that now is there...
best part of my newest one is its £20 roadtax just making the most of every penny you know....
All this hype has made diesel sales fall, depends if your easily swayed.
when they stop making diesel tractors i'll switch, until then its diesel all the way for me

 

[Farma Parma]

Compare like with like, it is not comparable to compare a petrol of the past with a modern diesel.
A modern turbo petrol road car compares very favourably with a diesel.
Economy is not much different, in straight line acceleration the diesel will leave the line slightly quicker due to greater torque, but by the time the diesel driver has to change to second the petrol will have caught up and then get away due to greater rev band.
Replacing exhausts is a thing of the past, few petrol exhausts need changing before a decade or so old now.
A petrol car will have longer service intervals than the diesel and services will be cheaper.
A petrol car is also less of a liability as it ages, as engine repairs are cheaper.

whats changed in petrol exhausts like? there is still a flaw called WATER that comes out them isnt there? none of this with a diesel
maybes the modern petrol magically puts no water out? i beg to differ.
or the exhausts are made of stainless steel.

 

[two-cylinder]

whats changed in petrol exhausts like? there is still a flaw called WATER that comes out them isnt there? none of this with a diesel
maybes the modern petrol magically puts no water out? i beg to differ.
or the exhausts are made of stainless steel.

The ones I have are stainless

 

[two-cylinder]

I'm quite excited by electric cars, acceleration is fantastic but range needs to be greater before I will buy.
I would feel uneasy visiting friends 200 miles away and asking to use their electric to charge up!

 

[Lincsman]

If my new car was worth only scrap in five year's time it would be a financial disaster and I hardly think they will do a straight swap for an electric car, or near enough, which is what you hypothetically imply.
I'm actually hiring the new car for three years at only £2 more per day than a packet of 20 cigarettes. Of course I will have to insure, service and fuel it on top, but hiring it is a no brainer and £2000/year cheaper than a PCP and cheaper than buying it.

No, I meant you would get your £30k back for current new car if you then bought a £110K new electric

 

[unlacedgecko]

We went into Iraq for the for same reason as Afghanistan, to let Iran know we could and would...

I though both of the above were to feed Tony Blair's messiah complex/ego

 

[Cowabunga]

No, I meant you would get your £30k back for current new car if you then bought a £110K new electric

My new car would sell for a bit more than that and I don't anticipate paying anything like £100k for a new electric car in three year's time, unless inflation takes off spectacularly.

 

[Deranged peasant]

Don’t forget we are not the only market in the world for vehicles.
Can’t see the Aussies phasing them out amongst many others.
Be a few 2nd hand one’s knocking about in the future.

 

[kiwi pom]

Don’t forget we are not the only market in the world for vehicles.
Can’t see the Aussies phasing them out amongst many others.
Be a few 2nd hand one’s knocking about in the future.

If the UK market for petrol or diesel goes away, will manufacturers still produce right hand drive vehicles for a shrinking market?
GM have already pulled out of the RHD market and got rid of Holden.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

With very low mileage, I'm not sure that an electric car would be a good idea. I'd probably advocate a petrol car without any emissions stuff.

Oh so 1985....

 

[Speedstar]

Hey you might be right but unfortunatly id still rather have a diesel
nowt wrong with that now is there...
best part of my newest one is its £20 roadtax just making the most of every penny you know....
All this hype has made diesel sales fall, depends if your easily swayed.
when they stop making diesel tractors i'll switch, until then its diesel all the way for me

I would never have or have had a diesel car, for me it has to be a petrol or maybe now an electric one , diesel is for work machines and will never be as good in a car as a petrol engine, I will put my tin hat on now & you should may take you blind fold off & look at things in a new way

 

[Farma Parma]

I would never have or have had a diesel car, for me it has to be a petrol or maybe now an electric one , diesel is for work machines and will never be as good in a car as a petrol engine, I will put my tin hat on now & you should may take you blind fold off & look at things in a new way

Audi 5pot RS3 Engine yeah id have one of them.
Snag is there all silly money.
cant say any current 4pot petrols float my boat.
BMW make some v nice 6pots tho & Audi V8s
Toyota Supra with that beemer motor in v nice.
there all Tractor money tho

 

[Highland Mule]

I would never have or have had a diesel car, for me it has to be a petrol or maybe now an electric one , diesel is for work machines and will never be as good in a car as a petrol engine, I will put my tin hat on now & you should may take you blind fold off & look at things in a new way

I’ve had cracking diesel and bad ones. Fantastic petrol and poor too. Only thing I’ve learned is you can’t generalise like you’ve just done.

Best recent petrol was 225 hp 1.8 VW engine. Best recent diesel is current one D4 volvo 190hp 2 litre.

If you’ve never had a diesel, it’s you wearing the blindfold.