No very promising for shellfish producers.

Foxhollow

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
The fishing industry have shot themselves in the foot. When 95% of all fish and shellfish is exported to the EU they were vehement in leaving the EU. They knew the rules that they would have to follow once out of the EU and it seems that the shellfish industry ignored or just had their heads in the sand thinking that they could do as before. There is no ban it is just that the shellfish industry were not prepared for the EU exit and now that they have to follow existing rules for countries outside the EU, to export to the EU they are complaining.
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
The fishing industry have shot themselves in the foot. When 95% of all fish and shellfish is exported to the EU they were vehement in leaving the EU. They knew the rules that they would have to follow once out of the EU and it seems that the shellfish industry ignored or just had their heads in the sand thinking that they could do as before. There is no ban it is just that the shellfish industry were not prepared for the EU exit and now that they have to follow existing rules for countries outside the EU, to export to the EU they are complaining.

Basically, they were “bamboozled” by Farage and his followers. They weren’t alone
 

Raider112

Member
Boris is & has been a total disaster, everything he touch’s seems to go badly. According to one of today’s papers his latest wheeze to save the planet is carbon taxes on meat, cheese & gas central heating, he’s obviously been brain storming with his dotty other half, I don’t think he is going to be much help to us farmers.
That's why we need some reliable figures for carbon sequestering from grassland. They can't just say it's complicated if they are thinking of taxing us. It might turn out to be a good thing if there is hard evidence that the vegans can't dispute.
 
so what to all the farmers who wanted to stay in the eu to allow access to sell lambs to europe ( as that was at risk) think about the fishermans plight since it wa the fishermen who were all pro leave eu ?
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Nope.
They had four and a half years to prepare.
Four and a half fekkin years.
You are a prize idiot, the Fishermen trusted absolutely that Boris and is his friends would deliver the oven ready deal to enable the Europeans to get their teeth into the fish they crave. Sadly this was not within Boris’s capability, since he could not swallow freedom of movement to accommodate the troglodytes.
 

caveman

Member
Location
East Sussex.
You are a prize idiot, the Fishermen trusted absolutely that Boris and is his friends would deliver the oven ready deal to enable the Europeans to get their teeth into the fish they crave. Sadly this was not within Boris’s capability, since he could not swallow freedom of movement to accommodate the troglodytes.
Fudge the freedom of movement.
Ruined this country.
 

Ashtree

Member
Plus the very inconvenient fact that the market for the majority of the fish caught in British waters, is the EU. It’s hard in a way to feel sorry fir the fishermen. Led bye the nose by Tory Toffs, to vote against their own self interest. Too bad I’m afraid.
 

caveman

Member
Location
East Sussex.
Plus the very inconvenient fact that the market for the majority of the fish caught in British waters, is the EU. It’s hard in a way to feel sorry fir the fishermen. Led bye the nose by Tory Toffs, to vote against their own self interest. Too bad I’m afraid.
Absolute waste of a huge amount of carbon to move a bit of snot around.
 

le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
James Withers, Chief Exec, Scottish Food and Drink Federation:
“There have been catastrophic decisions taken to create enormous non-tariff barriers. We have ended up with a trading regime which is complex, costly, slow, prone to break down at its best.”

Withers continues “At its worst some food exporters have been shut out of the EU market altogether in Scotland and the rest of the UK. Unfortunately it’s the very predictable outcome of trying to test a multi billion £ trading system in real time in the middle of a pandemic.”

Withers is excoriating about the UK government’s approach: “We asked, we pleaded for a grace period. Those pleas fell on deaf ears...Instead we got a deal on Christmas Eve, a final border operating model on NYE and a lot of businesses feel they were thrown to the wolves the next day.”

“If we listed everything what has gone wrong we’d just run out of time. It’d be dark very soon...The biggest single challenge we have right now is denial, denial from the UK government in particular on the scale of the problem.”

“We can’t accept that these are just teething problems, or even the statement from Defra this week that trade continues to flow smoothly because it doesn’t. It’s not flowing smoothly and it hasn’t done for five weeks"!
 

B'o'B

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
so what to all the farmers who wanted to stay in the eu to allow access to sell lambs to europe ( as that was at risk) think about the fishermans plight since it wa the fishermen who were all pro leave eu ?
I think Im right in say the majority of farmers also voted leave, or at least polled that way before the vote.
In many respects as an industry we have dodged the first Brexit bullet by the skin of out teeth. Which would be fine for us if there was only one person in the firing line and they were using a musket. However I’m not sure that is really the case and I’m left thinking there is probably a hail of bullets heading our way that we don’t know about yet. I have been preparing for a “difficult decade” as a minimum for British Ag since the vote and I‘m more convinced of that that now than ever.
 
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Muck Spreader

Member
Location
Limousin
I think Im right in say the majority of farmers also voted leave, or at least polled that way before the vote.
In many respects as an industry we have dodged the first Brexit bullet by the skin of out teeth. Which would be fine for us if there was only one person in the firing line and they were using a musket. However I’m not sure that is really the case and I’m left thinking there is probably a hail of bullets heading our way that we don’t know about yet. I have been preparing for a “difficult decade” as a minimum for British Ag since the vote and I‘m more convinced of that that now than ever.

I think it maybe a bit of a myth. I did read somewhere that when they broke the figures down, farmers roughly voted inline with the rest of general public. :scratchhead:
 

Update on the Sustainable Farming Incentive pilot

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Update on the Sustainable Farming Incentive pilot

Written by Lisa Applin

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In July, we opened the applications window for farmers to join our Sustainable Farming Incentive pilot.

The Sustainable Farming Incentive is 1 of the 3 new environmental land management schemes. It sits alongside the future Local Nature Recovery and Landscape Recovery schemes.

Through the Sustainable Farming Incentive, farmers will be paid for environmentally sustainable actions – ones that are simple to do and do not require previous agri-environment scheme experience.

We are piloting the scheme to...
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