No War On Plastic?

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
Doesn't burning polythene/plastic put something nasty into the atmosphere, though? I take the kitchen waste bin in beside the wood burner and anything flammable goes on the fire. Probably destroying the atmosphere but it certainly cuts down what goes to land fill and warms the house. I always take my own refuse into the recycling centre personally. Never know what I'm going to find!:)
 

sjt01

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
North Norfolk
Doesn't burning polythene/plastic put something nasty into the atmosphere, though? I take the kitchen waste bin in beside the wood burner and anything flammable goes on the fire. Probably destroying the atmosphere but it certainly cuts down what goes to land fill and warms the house. I always take my own refuse into the recycling centre personally. Never know what I'm going to find!:)
Not if it is hot enough, and the exhaust gases are scrubbed
 

Vader

Member
Mixed Farmer
There has been a waste to energy incinerator in Coventry for donkey’s years. Household bin lorries queue by the dozen to get in off the road, an occasional 8 wheeler trundles out with a bit of waste for landfill. Works a treat.

Then we have Drax Power Station that runs on wood chip produced in America. The whole bloody place is there because it was built on the land under which coal was dug. There are three sites each a stones throw from the other for the same reason.

Is it not possible to dig that coal, millions and millions of tonnes of which are still there, right under their feet, and then catch and purify the smoke? Then put the filtered crap back underground? There was a Homefire Smokeless fuel plant at Coventry but that closed down 20+ years ago. If smokeless fuel could be made then , why not now?

The Warwickshire Thick seam of coal is still there waiting to be used, and it will be one day. Millions of tonnes of it. And we get gas and woodchip from thousands of miles away.

Fecking nonsense.
Carbon capture.
Budge group were going to build a coal power station near us at Hatfield.
Would capture the nasty stuff and pipe back into rock under the sea.
 

Mark Hatton

Staff Member
Media
Location
Yorkshire
Had cause to walk along the fairly major trunk road close to where I live recently, the amount of discarded plastic waste was incredible!
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Mark Hatton

Staff Member
Media
Location
Yorkshire
Be careful of any plastic bottles with lemonade in them



BTW, boils my pee how peeps just chuck stuff out of their vehicles
The area in question isn’t visible from the carriageway, you can only see it from the footpath, genuinely shocked at how bad it was, stopped counting discarded traffic cones after I got to 20, all sorts of roadwork furniture in there, barriers, signs, etc, environmental campaigners should start with basics and address this sort of issue, I doubt it’s an isolated issue!
 

Hilly

Member
Often thought we should have trawlers for crap in the sea clean it up and recycle as much as possible . Stop fishing as it tastes like sh!t and they ruining the sea life , lets face it morden trawlers no fishing involved just catching .
 
Apparently human blood has now been found to have micro pieces of plastic in it? Countryfile yes, they made a very good point about the amount of plastic waste being washed up on the UKs coast, and a statement was said that very soon their will be more plastic in the worlds oceans than fish? i wonder how they work that out? but plastic use is very very common, in agriculture, why did feed companies go from paper to plastic sacks for one? but why is the UKs govt not making an ,all out attack on plastic the use of, the end use etc ,etc? like the war on fossil fuels?


It's all very noble and kind.

However, the initiative to recycle has been around for a long, long time. We all collect plastic and it goes into containers to be shipped to Asia. Where some it recycled, the rest is either burnt in the open air or dumped in the Ocean.

Recycling is the problem, far better it was dumped in a hole instead IMHO.

On top of this the virtue signalling has got to stop - along with that comes recognition that the UK is a small problem compared to USA, China & India.



Look at 31:00

 

bluebell

Member
but there is, was an alternative to plastic, remember glass bottles, glass bottles that had a deposit on them? bags made out of paper as i said before, rope, twine was all made of natural products, plastic has been a very convienant product to use that helps to make us more lazy? Some countries such as germany, austria seem in my view look at the bigger picture and view the products from start to finish, i remember many years ago they said that certain cars made in germany were being then designed to be completely recycleable at the end of their life?
 

T Hectares

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
I read with amusement this morning that the four pack of kitchen roll was produced in environmentally friendly ways and that lots of trees had been planted to offset the production.
All that information was printed on a plastic wrapper the is “Not currently recyclable “

Why can’t the four rolls be wrapped in paper? Just like breakfast cereal. They used to come in the box and a bag that was made from waxy paper. Why do they have to be in plastic?

There are hundreds of items that could be packed in paper rather than plastic.
Not all toilet rolls are equal !!
Sometimes you just have to look a bit harder and spend your cash with companies that package well…
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Goweresque

Member
Location
North Wilts
Which is one of the reasons I don't want sewage sludge on my place. I think there is a non-zero risk that one day they are going to turn around and say 'Any land treated with it is now considered contaminated land due to micro-plastics and the following restrictions apply to its use.'
 

T Hectares

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
If they’re sent in a box to the ‘end user’, do they really need that fancy printed packaging around the rolls or is that just a way to give them a USP and sell them for more than ‘bog standard’ rolls?
Depends if you are a miserable b**tard or not ??
I mean, you could wear hessian pants if you wanted to be self righteous!!
 

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