Noble foods free range
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wellingtonfarmer
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- Herefordshire
In order to become a new free range producer?
Yes... have you dealt with them?
- Location
- Boston, Lincolnshire
Yes.
Just get your figures nailed down. Feed @270 pullets @4.10 whatever egg price they offer. If it looks ok good luck to you. We are packing in but some can make it work at these prices. Be wary of the predicted egg numbers they tell you is possible.
Just too much risk from my side of the table when they can keep putting prices down with not a dam thing you can do about it.
Just get your figures nailed down. Feed @270 pullets @4.10 whatever egg price they offer. If it looks ok good luck to you. We are packing in but some can make it work at these prices. Be wary of the predicted egg numbers they tell you is possible.
Just too much risk from my side of the table when they can keep putting prices down with not a dam thing you can do about it.
Is it a new enterprise you are planning? I would be slightly worried that there is a bit of an egg surplus at the moment, although as its a 20 year investment today's figures don't matter as much as you might think.
I find noble OK. They are a massive company which undoubtedly has pros and cons.
Interestingly I had been told they had stopped expansion, but perhaps you are at a fairly advanced stage.
I find noble OK. They are a massive company which undoubtedly has pros and cons.
Interestingly I had been told they had stopped expansion, but perhaps you are at a fairly advanced stage.
wellingtonfarmer
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- Herefordshire
Not noble. Wouldn't bother at the moment- price drops are making everything hard work and it will only get worse
henman
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- pembrockshire
todays prices for eggs and the cost of feed and the equipment price increases £-euro I wouldn't bother
Daniel
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- Mildenhall, Suffolk
They will diligently trim your egg price, demand you buy feed and pullets off them very diligently and rely on the fact that you will have such a large mortgage that your diligent bank manager won't let you throw the towel in.
Thank you everyone. Basically my situation is that I am trying to create more work (and profit!) on a relatively small acreage...... so I am looking for some sort of additional enterprise.... broilers is another option but £2mil start up costs are very off putting, and it’s also a bit to industrial for my liking...
midlandslad
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- Midlands
What are packers paying at the moment? There seems no shortage of new sheds going up, but we keep hearing tales of over supply!
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- Boston, Lincolnshire
Noble just dropped price for mediums by 7p.
Seems unbelievable people even considering getting in to the egg job right now.
Seems unbelievable people even considering getting in to the egg job right now.
Daniel
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- Mildenhall, Suffolk
64000 bird 'high welfare' units are the thing to be shouting about now if you follow Vencomatic on Twitter.
Those sheds are being built for Wot-a-pullet I think, they have more in the pipeline for their 'Northern Poultry Campus'. This despite the fact their chief executive sat on stage at the free range conference for a Q + A, where we were told that there were already enough free range eggs being produced to see us through the ending of cage eggs for supermarkets in 2025.
Those sheds are being built for Wot-a-pullet I think, they have more in the pipeline for their 'Northern Poultry Campus'. This despite the fact their chief executive sat on stage at the free range conference for a Q + A, where we were told that there were already enough free range eggs being produced to see us through the ending of cage eggs for supermarkets in 2025.
midlandslad
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- Midlands
I think that Wot a Pullet are on with getting planning permission for a 256,000 bird unit on one farm. Must have a good crystal ball!
- Location
- Mid Norfolk
I'd recommend sitting down with a psychologist if you are thinking about getting into eggs at the moment.
Seriously.
My family have been in egg production on small/medium scale for 70 years. Not with Noble - I have no experience of being tied to a contract - and we have just cut back on production by a third. Permanently.
Domestic oversupply and crazy cheap imports are killing it. Brexit may help things with the imports - the fall of the pound helped prices and demand for about 6 months. As part of your due diligence makes sure you speak to independent pullet rearers, feed suppliers and spent hen buyers who will tell you tales of bankruptcies, unpaid bills and cancelled orders.
There is a good reason why Noble and other large packers contract out the majority of their production, they are protecting themselves from the most risk intense side of their business.
Daniel
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- Mildenhall, Suffolk
And yet, despite that, firms like Wot a Pullet above are pushing ahead with big new farms.
They must be assuming they'll be in so deep with their bank that everyone else will go under before theirs pulls the plug.
A dangerous game.
wellingtonfarmer
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- Herefordshire
Is that for all producers on feed link contract?
- Location
- Boston, Lincolnshire
No feed link unchanged I believe . But the feed link was reduced not si long ago a lot of producers either didn't re sign on to it or took a big hit at the time.
Crazy that noble still paying new shed bonus and taking on new producers. Almost feels like they are quite happy with over supplied egg market which allows them to drop price to whatever they feel they need to....
Crazy that noble still paying new shed bonus and taking on new producers. Almost feels like they are quite happy with over supplied egg market which allows them to drop price to whatever they feel they need to....
wellingtonfarmer
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- Herefordshire
What's new shed bonus?
Daniel
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- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
From BFREPA's text service:
'Noble reduce egg prices due to Small & Med market
L & VL UP 2p
Med down 7p
Smalls down to 22p inc bonus
G Sec down to 10p inc bonus
F Sec down to 15p inc bonus'
Anyone know what the existing prixe was for V Large, Large and Medium?
'Noble reduce egg prices due to Small & Med market
L & VL UP 2p
Med down 7p
Smalls down to 22p inc bonus
G Sec down to 10p inc bonus
F Sec down to 15p inc bonus'
Anyone know what the existing prixe was for V Large, Large and Medium?