Non so stupid as farmers

[marshbarn]

Farmers demanded the MMB be broken up saying that competition would bring efficientcies and better milk prices how wrong they were.
Next farmers were eager to sign up to crop assurance when it was first started, they thought it would lead to better prices and if not then they could drop out. Except the trade soon made all crops assured.

Now i see that 2/3 of farmers want out out of EU Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
The last 40 years have been the most profitable farmers have had ,with it be by intervention guarantying prices or Direct payments and subsidy.

I hear that farmers who want out of the EU are saying subsidies keep inefficient farmers going and if those inefficient farmers could be forced out of business then it would free up land for them to then take on to farm Dooh.
I class myself as a large efficient business but there is no way i want to get larger at those less fortunate than myself. expense.
The British government is not going pay equal amounts to farmers that the EU does, whether it is conservative or labour.
We should all thank the french with their burning a tyre in the street attitude to getting farm support.
Iam voting in and all farmers should think very carefully before casting us all adrift without a life boat.
Rant over and breathe.

 

[roscoe erf]

feeling better now

 

[bobk]

Farmers demanded the MMB be broken up saying that competition would bring efficientcies and better milk prices how wrong they were.
Next farmers were eager to sign up to crop assurance when it was first started, they thought it would lead to better prices and if not then they could drop out. Except the trade soon made all crops assured.

Now i see that 2/3 of farmers want out out of EU Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
The last 40 years have been the most profitable farmers have had ,with it be by intervention guarantying prices or Direct payments and subsidy.

I hear that farmers who want out of the EU are saying subsidies keep inefficient farmers going and if those inefficient farmers could be forced out of business then it would free up land for them to then take on to farm Dooh.
I class myself as a large efficient business but there is no way i want to get larger at those less fortunate than myself. expense.
The British government is not going pay equal amounts to farmers that the EU does, whether it is conservative or labour.
We should all thank the french with their burning a tyre in the street attitude to getting farm support.
Iam voting in and all farmers should think very carefully before casting us all adrift without a life boat.
Rant over and breathe.

Commeth the hour they'll vote in , all bluff and bluster., any farmer that votes out needs a head transfusion .

 

[roscoe erf]

Commeth the hour they'll vote in , all bluff and bluster., any farmer that votes out needs a head transfusion .

as long as its not with you

 

[spin cycle]

good arguement,,, but were farmers keen to sign upto farm assurance?....i know i wasn't

i take issue with the assumption that subsidies will go....i'm not sure they will....but the 'remain' camp forecasts a devaluation of around 18%...this would take the euro to 90p...the combination of exports being more competitive and imports dearer will raise prices,i think, more than enough to offset subsidies

i had a small machinery dealer last week tell me some of his customers were complaing about a certain landowner getting over a million in subs and just using it to hoover up land....now to me thats just life...but obviously some are resenting the large payouts

if we do brexit it'll be at least two years before we leave....even then i have a sucspicion that 1/ the EU will try telling us we can't ...and /or 2/ a 'new deal' for britain will be offered and we'll vote again

IMO the EU can't afford not to trade with us as we are net importers...so them banning our exports isn't going to happen

finally brexit isn't just about 'cash in our hands' ...it should go deeper reflecting the hard won freedoms of past generations and preserving our nation the way we want it...i don't want to be told by unelected career bureaucrats in brussels how to live my life

for those reasons i'm voting 'OUT'

 

[Wooly]

Commeth the hour they'll vote in , all bluff and bluster., any farmer that votes out needs a head transfusion .

Book me in for a head then.......


...........but not from one of those 5 million Turks that are soon to join our cramped Island if we stay in !!

 

[7610 super q]

I take issue with the last 40 years being profitable............

 

[roscoe erf]

I take issue with the last 40 years being profitable............

i think i must have blinked and missed that

 

[bobk]

Book me in for a head then.......


...........but not from one of those 5 million Turks that are soon to join our cramped Island if we stay in !!

You'll be fine, in the event of brexit Kent will be a immigrant holding camp.

 

[Kidds]

I take issue with the last 40 years being profitable............

I'd say the fruit and veg industry has been where the dairy industry is right now for the last 25 years. I made profit in just one of those years.

 

[Still Farming]

May be the Government will pay you to diversify land into migrate camps ?

 

[Henarar]

i take issue with the assumption that subsidies will go....i'm not sure they will....but the 'remain' camp forecasts a devaluation of around 18%...this would take the euro to 90p...the combination of exports being more competitive and imports dearer will raise prices,i think, more than enough to offset subsidies

Rubbish

 

[bobk]

Rubbish

Exactly ,George Osborne will tell us to go forth.. I'm spending the money on a f**kin railway line.

 

[spin cycle]

Rubbish

say what you mean ...don't 'dress it up'....is subsidies the only reason you're voting 'remain'?

 

[marshbarn]

Book me in for a head then.......


...........but not from one of those 5 million Turks that are soon to join our cramped Island if we stay in !!

Turkey are estimated to be 20 years away from joining , dont get sucked into the racist argument by Boris and Nigel

 

[Henarar]

Farmers demanded the MMB be broken up saying that competition would bring efficientcies and better milk prices how wrong they were.
Next farmers were eager to sign up to crop assurance when it was first started, they thought it would lead to better prices and if not then they could drop out. Except the trade soon made all crops assured.

Agree with this though

 

[bobk]

say what you mean ...don't 'dress it up'....is subsidies the only reason you're voting 'remain'?

Aye look after the pennies ......

 

[7610 super q]

I'd say the fruit and veg industry has been where the dairy industry is right now for the last 25 years. I made profit in just one of those years.

+1.

 

[7610 super q]

Any of the "stay ins " on here care to post their SFP payments ?
Mine is £2k, falling to about £900 in 2019. Woop de doo.....however will I manage without it.

 

[spin cycle]

Turkey are estimated to be 20 years away from joining , dont get sucked into the racist argument by Boris and Nigel

EU schengeen visas in months though....in exchange for taking 1 out of 2 syrian refugees back