- Location
- Mid Ulster
If you're talking to them, start at 10p, let them haggle down to 8 and they'll think they got a bargain.
Northern Ireland Milk Price Tracker
- Thread starter it's not over
- Start date
- Location
- East Tyrone
You got one as well. I've never seen so many clean boilersuits.
You used to get a couple of boiler suits with a robot. Mine still fit me after 10 years which I'm quite proud of. Dearest boiler suits I ever bought though.
- Location
- Co antrim
Must be damn good quality if its still goin 10 years later
It's a lely, good for the same again
- Location
- Northern Ireland
3rdgenerationdairyman
Member
Coppied from facebook. Sky News reported last night that the price of a loaf of bread in the UK could rise to over £3 as a result of the war in Ukraine. Last year the UK imported 2,370,000 tonnes of wheat from across the globe to supply the home market. The highest figure within the last five years.
Fertiliser prices have almost trebled and many UK farmers may be forced to farm with limited or even no fertiliser inputs to the land. If this is the case, crop yields including arable and grass will be severly affected.
UK self sufficiency in home- grown food is already falling alarmingly year upon year. Before long, more than half of the food we eat will be imported. There will be no cheap imported food to replace the shortfall. We could be in serious trouble.
Meanwhile government focuses on tree- planting, unregulated greenwashing of UK land and nature recovery. Farm by farm we are already beginning to lose productive farm land.
In Cumbria moorland is being offered for sale on the open market, under a marketing campaign to promote its value for amongst other things, carbon- offsetting.
Several acres of a local former dairy farm that was once cut for silage and grazed by cows has been sold on and is now covered in a swathe of tree guards, lost for all time to food production.
it is also rumoured that another substantial beef and sheep farm close to home has been sold in its entirety to be tree- planted. Time will tell, but all of this is the thin end of the wedge. Such greenwashing is unregulated and appears to be positively supported by government judging by the direction of travel in rural policy. Farmers are being blown out of the market. I do not blame the vendors of the land or the agents. We would all do the same.
It is clear that we can expect much more of this in future, with premiums paid for productive farm land from outside investors desperate to mitigate but not necessarily reduce their industrial Greenhouse Gas Emissions or wider carbon foot print, but what is the true cost?
The true cost is the loss of productive farmland that will be needed more than ever by successive generations. In decades to come our future families will know hunger. Hunger caused by climate change, disease, war and an ever expanding UK and global population.
And what of the farming families, described within Cumbria's Local Industrial Strategy (2019) as the social glue that unites rural Cumbria, providers of food and the landscapes loved by so many?
In parts of rural Cumbria tenanted farms will not be re- let. They will be taken back in hand by estates and private landlords to plant trees and in future satisfy a growing global carbon market. it is happening now, right here in Cumbria.
Very sadly, some very talented young people who want to farm for the future, will never get the chance. I know some of them. Once farming families leave remote rural communities, what is left? a handful of second homes and Air B&B's. Is this the future of rural Cumbria?
I am appalled at what is happening in Ukraine. I'm also appalled that it takes a dreadful war such as this for only one mainstream UK broadcaster to wake up and smell the coffee, if not the bread!
"The price of a loaf of bread could hit £3". Woopee- do! To the rest of us that live and breath the future of rural Cumbria, it's a wake up call to a fragile reality. Our food security year by year, month by month is going out of the window.
This current state of affairs is so frustratingly sad. Given the right policies and support, we could make our home grown supply of food far more sustainable and return our natural environment to the best state it has been for generations. Lots of tree- planting, but only in the right places. Lot's of habitat creation. Cleaner air and water, all within a farmed landscape producing more food. it is possible!
No one ever really believed there could be a war in Europe in the modern era. As climate change bites in future and global supplies of food and fresh water grow scarcer, the pressure is only going to grow. Importing more and more food from across the world, whilst we plant trees in the wrong place, is absolute folly.
Recently a local conservationist working with farmers told a visiting government minister that 1,000,000 trees could be planted in the right places in one small valley, and he would barely be able to tell the difference in the farmed landscape.
All we need is balance and a rural agenda that incorporates sustainable food production and an improved natural environment. Government has told us how many trees we must plant in the next 20 years, but it has no idea nor any desire to engage on how much food we will need to grow to sustain the UK population, This must change before it is too late.
There is a very honest and challenging debate that needs to take place in the county of Cumbria right now. I'd love to see Cumbria's MP's discuss this in a public forum. Sadly i don't know who is strong enough to make it happen.
£3 per loaf???? This should be a massive wake- up call.
Fertiliser prices have almost trebled and many UK farmers may be forced to farm with limited or even no fertiliser inputs to the land. If this is the case, crop yields including arable and grass will be severly affected.
UK self sufficiency in home- grown food is already falling alarmingly year upon year. Before long, more than half of the food we eat will be imported. There will be no cheap imported food to replace the shortfall. We could be in serious trouble.
Meanwhile government focuses on tree- planting, unregulated greenwashing of UK land and nature recovery. Farm by farm we are already beginning to lose productive farm land.
In Cumbria moorland is being offered for sale on the open market, under a marketing campaign to promote its value for amongst other things, carbon- offsetting.
Several acres of a local former dairy farm that was once cut for silage and grazed by cows has been sold on and is now covered in a swathe of tree guards, lost for all time to food production.
it is also rumoured that another substantial beef and sheep farm close to home has been sold in its entirety to be tree- planted. Time will tell, but all of this is the thin end of the wedge. Such greenwashing is unregulated and appears to be positively supported by government judging by the direction of travel in rural policy. Farmers are being blown out of the market. I do not blame the vendors of the land or the agents. We would all do the same.
It is clear that we can expect much more of this in future, with premiums paid for productive farm land from outside investors desperate to mitigate but not necessarily reduce their industrial Greenhouse Gas Emissions or wider carbon foot print, but what is the true cost?
The true cost is the loss of productive farmland that will be needed more than ever by successive generations. In decades to come our future families will know hunger. Hunger caused by climate change, disease, war and an ever expanding UK and global population.
And what of the farming families, described within Cumbria's Local Industrial Strategy (2019) as the social glue that unites rural Cumbria, providers of food and the landscapes loved by so many?
In parts of rural Cumbria tenanted farms will not be re- let. They will be taken back in hand by estates and private landlords to plant trees and in future satisfy a growing global carbon market. it is happening now, right here in Cumbria.
Very sadly, some very talented young people who want to farm for the future, will never get the chance. I know some of them. Once farming families leave remote rural communities, what is left? a handful of second homes and Air B&B's. Is this the future of rural Cumbria?
I am appalled at what is happening in Ukraine. I'm also appalled that it takes a dreadful war such as this for only one mainstream UK broadcaster to wake up and smell the coffee, if not the bread!
"The price of a loaf of bread could hit £3". Woopee- do! To the rest of us that live and breath the future of rural Cumbria, it's a wake up call to a fragile reality. Our food security year by year, month by month is going out of the window.
This current state of affairs is so frustratingly sad. Given the right policies and support, we could make our home grown supply of food far more sustainable and return our natural environment to the best state it has been for generations. Lots of tree- planting, but only in the right places. Lot's of habitat creation. Cleaner air and water, all within a farmed landscape producing more food. it is possible!
No one ever really believed there could be a war in Europe in the modern era. As climate change bites in future and global supplies of food and fresh water grow scarcer, the pressure is only going to grow. Importing more and more food from across the world, whilst we plant trees in the wrong place, is absolute folly.
Recently a local conservationist working with farmers told a visiting government minister that 1,000,000 trees could be planted in the right places in one small valley, and he would barely be able to tell the difference in the farmed landscape.
All we need is balance and a rural agenda that incorporates sustainable food production and an improved natural environment. Government has told us how many trees we must plant in the next 20 years, but it has no idea nor any desire to engage on how much food we will need to grow to sustain the UK population, This must change before it is too late.
There is a very honest and challenging debate that needs to take place in the county of Cumbria right now. I'd love to see Cumbria's MP's discuss this in a public forum. Sadly i don't know who is strong enough to make it happen.
£3 per loaf???? This should be a massive wake- up call.
- Location
- Northern Ireland
Chicago wheat is going limit up (+5%) every day this week.
- Location
- Northern Ireland
European gas new all-time high this morning.
it's not over
Member
- Location
- thunder rd co.antrim
Margaret Beckett mp secretary if state for the environment back un the 90s said, the world will be our bread basket, they need farmers now and guess what, they'll have to pay.get your hand in jam
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- Location
- Mid Ulster
Sure they'll stick another 1/2ppl on this month to keep us peasants contented
- Location
- Northern Ireland
In all honesty, I can't imagine any other industry that would approach this with either wit or sarcasm.
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It's all we've got left.
it's not over
Member
- Location
- thunder rd co.antrim
Look at the tory Party,handing out large ppe contract to their friend and donator, arms you wide for Russian
.Time to make hay 
- Location
- Co antrim
Could be 40p this summer
- Location
- Northern Ireland
Today Europe will pay Russia just shy of 1 billion dollars. 600M for gas and 350 for oil.
- Location
- Mid Ulster
Is there any other industry as large and vital as us, that gets both it's input and output prices dictated with so little other option. That's the real joke
- Location
- Northern Ireland
Exactly.
Ballygreenan
Member
- Location
- Tyrone NI
40ppl won't cover it the way input costs are rising.