Not Quite Farm Engineering or a Quick Bodge.

Ukjay

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Wales!
i believe it would be 12 months

It depends on what is involved, as our recent engineering safety check stated 6 months for lifting equipment (slings and fork attachments), and 12 months for the Telehandler itself.

Cranes have items that may be required to have checks more frequently: hooks and hoists, so it may be monthly for your insurance stipulations...
 

holwellcourtfarm

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Livestock Farmer
Don't forget that they will need testing every 6 months or whatever.

I weld up stuff on a little trailer thing (15 x 5 feet) and push it out the shed - or tow it with a tractor if very heavy- and turn the object over with a teleporter - which is being tested every 6 months anyway.
According to the HSE it's every 12 months for lifting equipment unless it lifts people:


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Bloders

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Ruabon
I think you may find the hooks and hosts are 6 months. As can be seen in your screenshot.
the main assembly - 12 months
any lifting attachments or slings - 6 months
The discussion was around the main assembly. The lifting atatchments are seperate (which is why they need 6 monthly) and could be used on other lifting equipment.
 

Mur Huwcun

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North West Wales
I think you may find the hooks and hosts are 6 months. As can be seen in your screenshot.

And you should still inspect and check them daily or every time they’re used and document it exactly the same as you do with all other equipement and powertools!!! Not much you can put in a log about an axle stand though! Especially if it’s been under the same tractor back end for three years..... well, apart from 5 minutes every 6 months when it’s inspected!!!
 

Ukjay

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Location
Wales!
the main assembly - 12 months
any lifting attachments or slings - 6 months
The discussion was around the main assembly. The lifting atatchments are seperate (which is why they need 6 monthly) and could be used on other lifting equipment.
I believe the hook at the end of the chain is classed as an accessory, thus also 6 months, and as you will not normally remove that part - it means 6 monthly checks.

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Bloders

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Ruabon
I believe the hook at the end of the chain is classed as an accessory, thus also 6 months, and as you will not normally remove that part - it means 6 monthly checks.

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disagree.
an accessory is a "loose" item, such as a lifting strap, a chain etc - these can be used with other lifting equipment. If it is part of the main assembly (ie only removed with tools) its 12 months.
 

Ukjay

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Wales!
disagree.
an accessory is a "loose" item, such as a lifting strap, a chain etc - these can be used with other lifting equipment. If it is part of the main assembly (ie only removed with tools) its 12 months.


So do you put a hook on a hook, as I have never done such?

The hook is a part that is often abused and subsequently ends up with the spring protection failing and rendering the lifting equipment void for safety, and was why our insurer specified 6 monthly check on such items..

I'm not 100% certain on legalities in law, but what I do know, is that if we went against the approved check guidelines - our insurance would be null and void..

As such, I stick to 6 months personally.. You are more that welcome to do as you see fit 👍
 

Bloders

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Ruabon
So do you put a hook on a hook, as I have never done such?

The hook is a part that is often abused and subsequently ends up with the spring protection failing and rendering the lifting equipment void for safety, and was why our insurer specified 6 monthly check on such items..

I'm not 100% certain on legalities in law, but what I do know, is that if we went against the approved check guidelines - our insurance would be null and void..

As such, I stick to 6 months personally.. You are more that welcome to do as you see fit 👍
Agree.
I was talking from a legislative point of view. Your insurance company can request anything they like providing it meets the minimum requirements.
 

JohnBoy

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Made a material rack today.

Put together a quick jig from some offcuts to make them all the same and very quick to assemble.

Stick welded for the instant weld prep factor.
 

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pycoed

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I recently resurrected a Japa 100 circular firewood saw in a pretty sorry state.
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It requires requires a PTO speed of 400rpm. I want to use it on my Cushman Truckster, to keep the tractor free for other tasks.
Truckster has a Kubota 3 cyl of 20ish horsepower, so should run the saw OK. Problem is that the Kubota has to be throttled down to 800rpm to give 400 PTO rpm at which speed it produces about 1/2hp & the saw will only slowly cut up to 3-4”.

So – I need a speed reducer so I can run the Kubota at a speed to produce 15+ hp at a PTO speed of 400. Somewhere around 1:2 reduction should do it…

I assembled the following potential bits from my scrap/stock pile :

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2 FIAT Tempra rear hubs together with stub axles (30mm dia) & nuts.
1 6” pulley from the water pump of a Jaguar XJS that some scrote had burned out on the mountain behind our house about 20 years back. I salvaged that pulley from a pile of molten aluminium when examining the remains.
1 3” pulley, source unremembered.
1 Cambelt tensioner from a FIAT uno (eccentric type)
1 crossbar from an electricity pole (4” x 3/8” galvanised angle)
1 piece of well rusty 3/8” plate source unremembered.
Small cast iron weight from an exercise set (about 4”x 1.5”) a ”road find” IIRC.
Some 6mm SQ key stock.
M12 X 1.25 Allen Bolts
M8 Dexion bolts
I would have liked to use sprockets & chain, but didn’t have anything suitable in store (shed obviously way too small, dear), so a belt it would have to be. (no duplex pulleys either)

I actually bought <sob> a PTO extender about 12” long (F to M) to provide the input & output shafts for the reducer.
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Started by cutting the PTO extender in half & welding each half to the rear of the FIAT stub axles, counterboring each for a pin to achieve concentricity.
Bored the 3” pulley to 30 mm
Bored the CI weight to 30mm & turned to make a hub for the 6” pulley & fixed with 3 Dexion bolts.

Ground some ¼” tool steel (broken endmill) to make a 6mm slot cutter & mounted in a boring bar.
Used the lathe carriage to cut the internal keyways in both pulley bores. First time I’d done this & it went quite well – wouldn’t pass a Rolls Royce inspection, but it’ll do for this bodgeup!
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Cut 6mm keyways in both stub axles in the mill & fitted keystock for pulley bores.
Cut a suitable length of the 4” angle to make the chassis of the reducer (12” abrasive chopsaw made short work of this). Chopped it about a bit with angle grinder.
Cut a suitable piece of 3/8 plate to weld to the angle ready to mount the hubs to the chassis.
Used a Sandvik 65mm holesaw to cut holes for the hubs in the chassis. Used about 200rpm in my inverter controlled Meddings drill press, lots of cutting oil & a 4mm chip clearance hole drilled beforehand on the circle – went surprisingly easily.
Offered the hubs & drilled bolt circle to mount them – could only find 4 suitable metric fine allen bolts, so 2 per hub it had to be to start.

Apart from machining suitable spacers from pipe & a few heavy washers, all was ready.

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Assembled the bits, estimated a 29” vee belt would fit, mounted the Uno tensioner to the chassis. I didn’t have an A29 belt, so more new bits needed! Ordered an A29 & A 30 belt , to be safe. Found the A29 was still a bit long once I’d fitted it (the angles round the tensioner look a bit extreme to me), so I’ve just ordered a couple of A28 belts. I don’t know how long the belt will last – I’ll suck it & see once I’ve started sawing. I suspect I may need to go to sprockets & chain, but we’ll see.
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I’ve about a winters worth of logs ready for sawing & splitting, but all my log stores are full already, so next job is to extend a pole barn to be able to store the stuff ready to be sawn.
 

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