Nroso heavy handed email

Wombat

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
East yorks
I dont agree with their attitude however look at it from another point of view. This is a professional qualification. You have said its vital to your business in order for you to feed your cattle. So you shouldnt have let it slip. Its the same for any profession that has to have professional qualifications to continue to trade. (solicitor, plumber, electrican, lorry driver etc...)
Again , I dont agree with how they are treating you just putting the other side across as we constantly tell the public we are a professional industry.
Dont shoot the messenger, just playing devils advocat.
Edit, if they dont play the heavy handed approach then they sort of undermine the importance of their own scheme.
Maybe as a professional organisation they could update their website to be at least a few months out of date not 6yrs 🤣🤣

 

Scotty

Member
North of the border we have an annual training course run by one of the largest machinery rings.
A half day course usually within 25 miles , 50 quid and bobs your uncle.
Saves having to go to multiple meetings.
Last year it was an online course which was even better.
Is there nothing similar in the south?
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Like i said, I DON T AGREE. I'm merely creating debate, After all this is a discussion forum. I also said. They need to be very harsh to justfy the merit of their own scheme. If they appear soft then their own scheme lacks the credit they think it has.
Yes, I get where you are coming from but when the mistake is their end and you've attended 3 courses (10 points each) and yet you are at fault and can no longer potentially trade, I never got an apology for their mistake, just treated like something you'd stepped in. Just another layer of jobsworths that actually contribute zero to society if the truth be told.
 

Boysground

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Wiltshire
A few years ago my then agronomist organised a meeting for his customers with Tom Robinson sprayer guru. I learnt loads that morning definitely more than at any nroso course I’ve done and I think I got 2 measly points. Probably just because they couldn’t cash in on one of their courses

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NRoSO are totally incompetent. Sent me a similar email in the spring. Was to be cut off due to non payment and lack of points. This was only due to them not sending me a suitable invoice and not crediting the appropriate points. Took them 2 months to acknowledge payment and credit the points. Since then I have had to chase all evidence submitted and it still has not been credited properly.

It must be possible to credit the points straight to your account with the tech now available. Anyone on furlough for the full time period available may need to ask themselves how essential there job really is?
 

jerseycowsman

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cornwall
They're shysters too in the same camp as RT and NSF. Had run in with them when one of the courses I attended for some reason wasnt logged on their system, even the course organiser phoning them wouldnt convince them I had attended. Fortunately I had kept all my three certificates so sent them pictures of them and they backed down.
It is the one thing of many that irks me about some of these organisations is that they have started to treat you almost like a criminal because you have broken some small poxy rule, Found NSF and NROSO to be particularly bad in this respect and like you being spoken to in such a manner doesnt bring out the best in me
That is it, you feel like you are the worlds number one criminal for any transgressions with these bloody self certified assurance bodies!
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Yep. Sit half asleep for an afternoon drinking tea on one of their courses and you get ten points.
Actually go out into the yard and jug test your nozzles or check your machine over and you get nowt.
That’s how it works nowadays. Just spent a fortnight preparing for RT inspection . Time would have been better spent on the real jobs that need doing but they don’t tick boxes so don’t count.
 

T Hectares

Member
Location
Berkshire
@Boysground i’ve had the same letter, again !!
I submit my BASIS cpd points every three years which replaces sitting through a couple of hours of drivel and what is increasingly a sponsored sales pitch from what I’ve been told about this years course, however I get the same heavy handed officious threat at the end of each period


Totally right to throw the toys out of the pram on the phone, letting them know our dissatisfaction with them is very much needed

The conference was good though, RW kicked it off with some gusto 👍🏻
 

T Hectares

Member
Location
Berkshire
Like i said, I DON T AGREE. I'm merely creating debate, After all this is a discussion forum. I also said. They need to be very harsh to justfy the merit of their own scheme. If they appear soft then their own scheme lacks the credit they think it has.
Not sure I agree, I have found BASIS to be accommodating when I had a lapse in my CPD points years ago
I had a sensible conversation with them, went away and earnt some points in a given period and we all carried on with our business without threatening a years suspension for the lack of a single point

Who has the higher standing in the industry, Noroso or BASIS ??
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
@Boysground i’ve had the same letter, again !!
I submit my BASIS cpd points every three years which replaces sitting through a couple of hours of drivel and what is increasingly a sponsored sales pitch from what I’ve been told about this years course, however I get the same heavy handed officious threat at the end of each period


Totally right to throw the toys out of the pram on the phone, letting them know our dissatisfaction with them is very much needed

The conference was good though, RW kicked it off with some gusto 👍🏻

I thought it had now changed so BASIS membership and points doesn’t give you a free pass to escape NRoSO point collection. You now need to collect both separately…. 🙄
 

Robt

Member
Location
Suffolk
Perhaps people should be asking for proof of what courses and qualification schemes these parasites have been on in the last 12 months to justify their self made rights to dictate to farmers what they should / could/ would/will be forced to do.
Would a freedom of information request cover this? great idea!
 

T Hectares

Member
Location
Berkshire
I thought it had now changed so BASIS membership and points doesn’t give you a free pass to escape NRoSO point collection. You now need to collect both separately…. 🙄
Has it ??
I’ve received no notification of this and I’ll be using this defence when I contact them next week, it would’ve been easy for me to sign both forms at events so I’ll be really peed off if I've missed this through their lack of communication

Doesn’t really matter though, the only time we need Noroso is for the annual RT nonsense and my employees number can always go down on the form and I’ll put my feet up from the Noroso nonsense for a year !!
 

Robt

Member
Location
Suffolk
Not sure I agree, I have found BASIS to be accommodating when I had a lapse in my CPD points years ago
I had a sensible conversation with them, went away and earnt some points in a given period and we all carried on with our business without threatening a years suspension for the lack of a single point

Who has the higher standing in the industry, Noroso or BASIS ??
Again, I am agreeing. BASIS is a very specialist qualification that takes some studying and good knowledge. Its a very well recognized and respected qualification. This thread has pretty much confirmed what you all think of NROSO.....
 

David.

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
Just off phone now to them, points all credited whilst on phone, nice and helpful, paid up, good to go and spray.
TFF points still not showing on system though, oddly...
Moral of story seems to be to do an annual check on points status, and not leave it all 'till suspension notice is imminent, which is what I suspect a lot of us do.
 

Barleymow

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Ipswich
I dont agree with their attitude however look at it from another point of view. This is a professional qualification. You have said its vital to your business in order for you to feed your cattle. So you shouldnt have let it slip. Its the same for any profession that has to have professional qualifications to continue to trade. (solicitor, plumber, electrican, lorry driver etc...)
Again , I dont agree with how they are treating you just putting the other side across as we constantly tell the public we are a professional industry.
Dont shoot the messenger, just playing devils advocat.
Edit, if they dont play the heavy handed approach then they sort of undermine the importance of their own scheme.
but you could collect points for anyone just put the number down at an event .its not like its hard work just a nuisance to collect sufficient points .
 

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