Nroso heavy handed email

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
If you have basis and are up to date then all you need to do is send the last three years certificates (email basis if you have lost them) to nroso and you will automatically be re registered. It happens to me every three years because I never claim nroso points.
 

mo!

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
York
Give that NROSO points are handed out like smarties, how difficult is it to get 30 over three years?

Where should the limit be for 30 points? 28? 25? Sod it, call it 20 and be done. That will make us look professional...
 

An Gof

Member
Location
Cornwall
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@Boysground ive had the same letter, again !!
I submit my BASIS cpd points every three years which replaces sitting through a couple of hours of drivel and what is increasingly a sponsored sales pitch from what Ive been told about this years course, however I get the same heavy handed officious threat at the end of each period


Totally right to throw the toys out of the pram on the phone, letting them know our dissatisfaction with them is very much needed

The conference was good though, RW kicked it off with some gusto
Agreed RW was an excellent presenter.
 

curlietailz

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Sedgefield
Could pay EiEiO 瞿25 and get 6? Points for online course. And 2 points for free
Sign up to Potash News, meeting with Agronomist, being with the spray and fertilizer spinner tester and the TFF
I think theres about 15 points in that list
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Give that NROSO points are handed out like smarties, how difficult is it to get 30 over three years?

Where should the limit be for 30 points? 28? 25? Sod it, call it 20 and be done. That will make us look professional...
Is it really a profession? Its a sprayer not a nuclear reactor. How much does it take to read a spray ticket, and keep it at 10k 3 barg or wherever it needs to be?
I agreed with PA1 and 2. A good grounding. Then you learn from experience, from machine specific training (which is never covered by NRoSO) and reading literature, agronomist input etc.This need for ongoing CPD to drive a sprayer is overblown in my view. Im 52, I have been driving sprayers for 40 years. Im always up for learning new stuff but to say I cant continue just because I havent recorded some points is balmy in my view. Spraying isnt the sort of job where you get it wrong more than once anyway. Its a kind of self regulating career in that respect. Those that can do it, do it. Those that cant are soon down the road, regardless how many NRoSO points they have.
Sorry to say that a lot of the NRoSO training might sound worthy in a classroom but most of it is about 10% of the actual job. Youll never be shown how to Jack up a high clearance machine safely and change the wheels, how to change a Ramsey box diaphragm or how to get up a sticky hillside in a hydrostatic by transferring more flow to the back wheels.
Heaven help anyone who thinks they can drive a sprayer because theyve got 30 NRoSO points.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
How many people are killed on the roads each year? Thousands. So why arent car drivers required to do ongoing training and earn CPD points to keep their licences?
How many people have been killed by incompetent sprayer drivers? Hardly any.
So let it not be said that any of this NRoSO stuff is based on any kind of scientific risk assessment. It isnt. Its purely a measure to appease governments and the public. Appeasement at the farmers cost, is something our industry leaders excel at. They told us it would save us from losing actives. Well we have lost plenty despite taking extreme care so worked out really well. Most of its a hiding to nothing.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
what they did to the op They did to me ,that was the last straw for me for those job creation ,know nothing time and money wasters.
didnt or hasnt stopped me spraying funnily enough,nor farming the Worlds not stopped turning
Its really quite liberating dumping all these 'barnicle' type outfits,how arrogant they all are.
tell then TGGF.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
what they did to the op They did to me ,that was the last straw for me for those job creation ,know nothing time and money wasters.
didnt or hasnt stopped me spraying funnily enough,nor farming the Worlds not stopped turning
Its really quite liberating dumping all these 'barnicle' type outfits,how arrogant they all are.
tell then TGGF.
They tried to get me out of RT last year as I hadnt had my sprayer MOT due to Covid restrictions. They set me a date over the Christmas holiday as the time limit to have it MOTd by an approved tester during frosty weather. Ive never known such an inflexible organisation with so little concern for the logistical difficulties we faced during Covid.
By contrast I am also a member of the Institute of Engineering and Technology. If they see you are struggling they actually have folks who can help you out and get you going again. Fat chance of that with this lot.
 
Its not as much the practical side I have an issue with , only because I think Im sorted. Its the heavy handed attitude. I was basically told rules are rules end of on the phone

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Its when I read topics like this, and posts relating to failures of horrendously complicated tractors that I realise how lucky I am to be retired and out of it all.
 
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silverfox

Member
Location
Shropshire
I was struggling for a few points last year and was on the COVID isolation list , so couldnt go out anyway .
I pointed out that there were no meetings , even with agronomist , but the arseholes didnt take any of this in account .Ive also spent 2 hours this morning, playing dumb as my sprayer was MOTD by a very nice mechanic, but who honesty was teaching granny to suck eggs, so to speak . Ive a very basic 18m sprayer that works perfectly and dont really need someone examining the pipes for a leak or jug testing it at great cost .
memo to self. If I ever pack in farming, set up as a sprayer tester or something
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I really think that what is needed is a kind of Quality Assurance first responders team to help folk who are struggling before despair sets in and they get thrown off the scheme. For me thats what a Union is for. Helping its members. So if folks are getting near the deadline and are short of points they get maybe some help with Ei operator or something. Help isnt illegal is it? Shouldnt industry organisations be allowed to help those who are struggling rather than seemingly take pleasure in chucking them on the scrap heap?
 

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