NSA and Prof Jude Capper - Report

DaveGrohl

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Farmers Weekly report today;


Methane must not be sole focus of sustainable ag, says NSA​

Rhian Price05 August 2024
© Tim Scrivener
© Tim Scrivener
The National Sheep Association (NSA) has released a report to highlight to policymakers the holistic role the sheep industry plays in sustainable agriculture and how focusing solely on “carbon and methane” would be wrong.
Produced in association with Harper Adams University School of Sustainable Food and Farming, UK sheep farming and the sustainability agenda: a review of the evidence and ways to deliver more was launched at the NSA Sheep Event in Malvern.
See also: Carbon footprint study shows scope for beef and sheep efficiency gains
The report emphasises four key pillars of sustainability – environment, economics, health and society – and says all must be considered together, rather than in isolation.
NSA chief executive Phil Stocker told a packed seminar tent: “In doing this report, we wanted to raise the other issues of sustainability. We can’t be measured on one metric alone. We must be measured in a much more holistic fashion.”
Lead author of the 28-page document, Prof Jude Capper from Harper Adams, said every system and breed had the potential to be sustainable.
“We can’t just look at carbon. Carbon has been the focus from a processor, retailer and policymaker point of view, but we’ve got to look at the bigger picture.”
She said grazing is the best land use for 65% of UK land and that, along with the benefits the sheep industry brings, this needs to be communicated more widely.
“Sheep give us food, natural fibres, they improve the soil and biodiversity, [deliver] carbon sequestration and water filtration. So many rural towns and villages are utterly dependent on the [sheep] industry. That’s incredibly important for tourism and economies.”
She added that biodiversity and efficiency could be improved together, regardless of how extensive or intensive systems were.

Opportunities for improvements​

Jude said there was a huge variation in the carbon footprint of UK sheep farms, ranging from less than 10kg carbon dioxide equivalent (CO2e)/kg liveweight to 55kg-plus, adding: “Because there’s so much variation, that gives up opportunities to improve.”
The report considers what more can be done to improve the sector’s green credentials and how feed choice, pasture quality, health and welfare and genetics and productivity can help.
Within the report, the NSA is calling for farm schemes to cover carbon auditing and for one tool or standardised metrics to help build a national picture.

Data and benchmarking are key​

Jude said the adoption of GWP* would be a “game-changer” for the sheep industry because it cuts the climate impact of methane by two-thirds.
“We have to have the right metrics to accurately reflect the contribution of our industry to greenhouse gas emissions.”
She pleaded with farmers to collect more data and benchmark performance to help identify areas for improvement and learn “from the best”.
The report contains 17 examples of sheep farmers across the UK improving environmental and economic sustainability.
NSA hopes the document will inform and influence policy support, market development and practical applications at farm level in the future.
The full report is available at the NSA’s website.
 

DaveGrohl

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Jude said the adoption of GWP* would be a “game-changer” for the sheep industry because it cuts the climate impact of methane by two-thirds.
“We have to have the right metrics to accurately reflect the contribution of our industry to greenhouse gas emissions.”


Is it just me or is it the sound of a penny finally dropping with her?
There’s still a lot to dislike in that piece, but there’s also a lot to like. Sheep farming not just about carbon and methane. Far more to it than that, and they back it up. Bravo.

Maybe, just maybe, her coming on here a few months back and then flouncing off when met with some seriously constructive criticism and questioning has given her pause for thought?

Jury’s out.
 
Jude said the adoption of GWP* would be a “game-changer” for the sheep industry because it cuts the climate impact of methane by two-thirds.
“We have to have the right metrics to accurately reflect the contribution of our industry to greenhouse gas emissions.”


Is it just me or is it the sound of a penny finally dropping with her?
There’s still a lot to dislike in that piece, but there’s also a lot to like. Sheep farming not just about carbon and methane. Far more to it than that, and they back it up. Bravo.

Maybe, just maybe, her coming on here a few months back and then flouncing off when met with some seriously constructive criticism and questioning has given her pause for thought?

Jury’s out.

I think it depends which way wind is blowing.

If it wasn't spotted before how come it's been spotted now? By a Professor no less as well.

It was very easy to see about 12 years ago that ruminants do not "create" ghg so why now? The evidence hasn't changed just the political positions.

The most glaring area to look at is fossil fuel usage and then decisions made on that. Playing about with animal farts and tree root sequestration is not going to do anything
 
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DaveGrohl

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I think it depends which way wind is blowing.

If it wasn't spotted before how come it's been spotted now?

It was very easy to see about 12 years ago that ruminants do not "create" ghg so why now? The evidence hasn't changed just the political positions.

The most glaring area to look at is fossil fuel usage and then decisions made on that. Playing about with animal farts and tree root sequestration is not going to do anything
This is a document for policymakers to consider apparently. There seems to be a definite shift in her position I imagine. Or am I just imagining? :LOL:
 

delilah

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She pleaded with farmers to collect more data and benchmark performance to help identify areas for improvement and learn “from the best”.

It's a trap.

Dr Capper doesn't work for us. She works for ABP. There is nothing in that article to suggest she has changed her stance one iota. Everything she says, she has always said. Breed them better. Feed them different stuff. Kill them younger. Because your sheep do, absolutely, contribute to climate change.
 

delilah

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Vader

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It's a trap.

Dr Capper doesn't work for us. She works for ABP. There is nothing in that article to suggest she has changed her stance one iota. Everything she says, she has always said. Breed them better. Feed them different stuff. Kill them younger. Because your sheep do, absolutely, contribute to climate change.
If they push gwp* adoption then let them make a trap.
 

delilah

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If they push gwp* adoption then let them make a trap.

She pleaded with farmers to collect more data and benchmark performance to help identify areas for improvement and learn “from the best”.

It's a trap.

Why does Dr Capper want your data ? So that ABP / the cartel can say that their vertically integrated serfs have sheep that produce x% less methane than you plebs. Scope 3 box ticked. Consolidation/ removal of liveweight sales ramped up.
 

DaveGrohl

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It's a trap.

Why does Dr Capper want your data ? So that ABP / the cartel can say that their vertically integrated serfs have sheep that produce x% less methane than you plebs. Scope 3 box ticked. Consolidation/ removal of liveweight sales ramped up.
Thing is, if GWP* is adopted then the main chunk of their Scope 3 guilt-pushing disappears. Then they’re left looking a bit naked. Then their part in this comes into sharp focus. As your excellent fuel use sheet points to.
Boom and boom.
 

Vader

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It's a trap.

Why does Dr Capper want your data ? So that ABP / the cartel can say that their vertically integrated serfs have sheep that produce x% less methane than you plebs. Scope 3 box ticked. Consolidation/ removal of liveweight sales ramped up.
Should never give data.
But if gov will adopt gwp* because of Dr capper then give the good Dr just enough to get it done.
 

delilah

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Thing is, if GWP* is adopted then the main chunk of their Scope 3 guilt-pushing disappears.

But if gov will adopt gwp* because of Dr capper then give the good Dr just enough to get it done.


Now, I have seen countless posts on here from far cleverer folks than me, but I am fairly certain I haven't seen anything that ties in with this:

Jude said the adoption of GWP* would be a “game-changer” for the sheep industry because it cuts the climate impact of methane by two-thirds.

Where has Dr Capper got that statistic from ? In what way does it remove the 'livestock cause climate change' argument.

She is playing you for fools. Don't fall for it. Did I say ? It's a trap.
 

delilah

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Should never give data.

Quite. Yet that is precisely what Dr Capper, with the backing of the NSA, is asking. Give us your data.

Have a look at the attached to see where handing over data will lead to. You've got beef, have a look at that page. Asks if you medicate the feed with 3-NOP.
 

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Birdlipper

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Thing is, if GWP* is adopted then the main chunk of their Scope 3 guilt-pushing disappears. Then they’re left looking a bit naked. Then their part in this comes into sharp focus. As your excellent fuel use sheet points to.
Boom and boom.
And the the other food products (looking at field veg) will have to start looking at their climate contributions (and resource used they aren’t great cycles, dependent on fossil fuels/ fert) rather than letting ruminants taking all the flak. That’s before we looking at levelling nutrient content etc. Plant based will look a bit less the panacea eh Vince?
 

delilah

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And the the other food products (looking at field veg) will have to start looking at their climate contributions (and resource used they aren’t great cycles, dependent on fossil fuels/ fert) rather than letting ruminants taking all the flak. That’s before we looking at levelling nutrient content etc. Plant based will look a bit less the panacea eh Vince?

Yeah, lets pit the veg sector against the livestock sector. Good plan (y) .

There is nothing wrong our side of the farm gate. Whatever we produce, and however we choose to produce it. It is the only message we should be putting out there.
 

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delilah

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Anyone who hasn't done so, it is worth looking at the report, amounts to 32 pages explaining in great detail how your sheep are causing climate change. Any NSA members should be telling the generally excellent Mr Stocker that it is a huge tactical error to allow the NSA and its members to be used in this way by Dr Capper.
 

JP1

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I think it depends which way wind is blowing.

If it wasn't spotted before how come it's been spotted now? By a Professor no less as well.

It was very easy to see about 12 years ago that ruminants do not "create" ghg so why now? The evidence hasn't changed just the political positions.

The most glaring area to look at is fossil fuel usage and then decisions made on that. Playing about with animal farts and tree root sequestration is not going to do anything
Author of the the infamous NBA report , removed but not without already submitting to DEFRA (useful for their archives). I believe she is still a TFF member on here and she knows my opinion

What I want to know as a levy payer is what and why the AHDB are not fighting back with proper reasoned argument about the methane and natural C02 cycle with GWP100*
 

Raider112

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Author of the the infamous NBA report , removed but not without already submitting to DEFRA (useful for their archives). I believe she is still a TFF member on here and she knows my opinion

What I want to know as a levy payer is what and why the AHDB are not fighting back with proper reasoned argument about the methane and natural C02 cycle with GWP100*
And cost the NBA a member here, it threatened to split us down the middle.
 

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