glasshouse
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And you believe gove?
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We'll just have to agree to disagree on this, but I just can't see LLs begging tenants to farm their land.....rent free.....whilst throwing money at the house and buildings for them....to end up with sitting tenants.....halving the value of their land.....and demanding compensation for this, that, and t'other.
Be cheaper just to let the land revert to scrub. Soon get it back into farm-able state with modern machinery in the future..
Will Blackburn
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- Cheshire
glasshouse
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- lothians
Without the eu freebies, landlords will need to find tenants to provide them with an income from rent.
such tenants will be few and far between if we are flooded with brazilian beef etc.
gove will pay out nothing
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- Montgomeryshire
Rollocks. This isn't the 1920's.......with a batwing topper and a big tractor, a LL can keep his land in good condition topping it twice a year. If he can't do that, he ain't fit to own it anyway.
Surely better that giving it away for 200 years......
To be fair, paying a man to run round topping it has a cost too.
A couple of shepherds on a large estate, with a large parkland, once told me that they’d worked out that it would cost the estate £50k to employ a man and run a tractor and topper to keep it tidy. They reckoned that, as long as the sheep enterprise lost less than £50k, their jobs were safe....
Cheaper to rent it out for nowt, than to pay out £50k on keeping it tidy. Of course, that will never happen though, as Bossfarmer and his ilk will pay good money to be able to expand.
And you think the rules will allow that.
I have a nasty feeling that Team Gove will pay us *more*for turning it into scrub, so long as we clear paths for damned dog walkers to get through it.
glasshouse
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- lothians
The tories wont be in power, so what gove thinks wont matter.
Corbyn wont pay landlords a penny, in fact they will be paying him.
Corbyn wont pay landlords a penny, in fact they will be paying him.
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- Minehead,Somerset
This farm is on same estate as me. It is around 170 acs but lots of restrictions and last tenant left 20 months ago. I understand from local gossip that 40 people put in offers and 4 people had interviews last week. The two locals who I know applied both did nt get interviews which I was surprised about especially one of them.
It would be highly unlikely to go to anyone local or with connections (I did tell a certain cow scanner that opinion)
The NT is keen to get radically more environmentally focussed and production agriculture ie farmers are not who they want as future tenants! Any local candidate is going to carry local predudices and opinions and is likely to hinder new enviro focus/change.
The NT is keen to get radically more environmentally focussed and production agriculture ie farmers are not who they want as future tenants! Any local candidate is going to carry local predudices and opinions and is likely to hinder new enviro focus/change.
exmoor dave
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Their whole attitude at the moment is quite worrying even to long term tenants.
Probably the only saving grace is that soundbites at the top are often lost by the time they reach the ground level staff and tenants.
Some plans I heard of this week, quite ambitious &very concerning for us here on the coast..... totally impossible to implement
glasshouse
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- lothians
Its always been landlord policy to bring on outsiders to facilitate their "divide and rule" strategy.
Incomers have different ideas which may or may not work, but their high rental offer will be used to beat the other tenants about the head, whether it is actually ever paid or not.
Speedstar
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This is not the case with your old farm, is it not a guy from a few miles away doing a very good job there now
Will Blackburn
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- Cheshire
Some plans I heard of this week, quite ambitious &very concerning for us here on the coast..... totally impossible to implement
They want reconnect the river bordering my farm with it's flood plain. This very ambitious to say the least. I am sympathetic to the idea, the levees are a bit high. The biggest issue though is the river's course is completely man-made and the old river course is occupied by a minor drainage ditch. I would not like to predict the consequences of dropping the levees.
glasshouse
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Its not a hard and fast rule.
I gather his "rent" however has been used to chastise a number of tenants already.
Landlords don’t have to rent a farm as a going concern. More likely to let house and buildings separately , possibly with a few acres to professionals wanting to live rurally , or even just sell off the house.
A neighbour will always want the land , even if it’s on a contract farming agreement.
I’ve got a mate who was paying nearly £2k month to rent a farmhouse on the packington estate. He’s a headmaster of a private school in Coventry and could afford it, as he and his wife bring Home over £100k year.
A neighbour will always want the land , even if it’s on a contract farming agreement.
I’ve got a mate who was paying nearly £2k month to rent a farmhouse on the packington estate. He’s a headmaster of a private school in Coventry and could afford it, as he and his wife bring Home over £100k year.
There’s a fair few farms round here that will be bringing in £100k just renting offices, units. The farming becomes secondary...
NT has a very public image and would be reluctant to be seen destroying the heritage of an identifiable farm holding by letting farmhouse without the land.....leastways that’s a core value they should be held accountable for.
Will Blackburn
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- Cheshire
They are quite happy culling out uneconomic holdings round here. Albeit for houses worth £3k a month round here.
sensiblefarmer
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It's obvious chaps the landagent fraternity is playing us.
"Gover" has indicated that there will be a cap on subsidy limits and we'll have to work for anything over a basic payment (50% of what we get now)(?).
I think he has listened to Dieter Helm....whoops the good Prof has probably heard my APR/IHT rant and my dreaded Ban Rollover relief...tax 'em on sale completion outburst.
I must be careful as how will I feel when agricultural land (with no development hope value)plummets to less than five grand an acre. I feel so guilty.....guilt over. Does anybody have the AMC's phone number?
"Gover" has indicated that there will be a cap on subsidy limits and we'll have to work for anything over a basic payment (50% of what we get now)(?).
I think he has listened to Dieter Helm....whoops the good Prof has probably heard my APR/IHT rant and my dreaded Ban Rollover relief...tax 'em on sale completion outburst.
I must be careful as how will I feel when agricultural land (with no development hope value)plummets to less than five grand an acre. I feel so guilty.....guilt over. Does anybody have the AMC's phone number?
glasshouse
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The units are not uneconomic, they just want the houses to rent out for £3k