NZ Groundswell protests.

[Courier]

So the one off tax on a hilux is $1700 ?
Presume the invincible x is more
What is road tax cost?

So it’s a one off or an annual fee ?
Is there GST on the $1700 ?

 

[kiwi pom]

I know all that, but what is the actual tax?
Probably still way less than uk
My landcruiser costs £580 annual govt theft road tax
I can recall filling up my ford mondeo hire car in nz for £8 not so long ago!

Mrs KP's 2.2 litre diesel Hyundai Santa Fe is $178 a year for rego and Road uses are $760 per ten thousand KM's
I'm in Invercargill at the moment and the cheapest diesel I can see is $1.37 a litre.

Can't help with Pick up costs.

 

[kiwi pom]

Also the cheapest petrol I can see down here is 2.14 a litre for 91.
$2.26 for premium.

 

[Courier]

Diesel $1.37 /litre ( is that inc gst?)= 60.8 ppl uk
Petrol $2.14 /litre ( “. ) = 109.2 ppl uk

 

[kiwi pom]

Diesel $1.37 /litre ( is that inc gst?)= 60.8 ppl uk
Petrol $2.14 /litre ( “. ) = 109.2 ppl uk

Yep, Its just the price at the pumps, I've a phone app that shows the cheapest in an area. Seems to be a little bit dearer down here.

 

[glasshouse]

With 60 p for white deisel, they dont need red
Rego here is £270 for a hilux plus 8000 litres road fuel robbery at 50p litre is £4000 pa

 

[stewart]

in my opinion the Kiwi

Which illustrates there are different outlooks and opinions. Personally I could not see an animal suffer if I had the ability to put it out of its misery and would have done the same as the Kiwi instead of waiting for an hour or so for a vet to turn up.

 

[stewart]

With 60 p for white deisel, they dont need red
Rego here is £270 for a hilux plus 8000 litres road fuel robbery at 50p litre is £4000 pa

We dont need red as there is a road user charge per kilometer to pay on diesel road vehicles, this equates to around 60c litre on a Landcruiser.
Fuel is the same cost the world over, what is different is the tax on the fuel and how that tax is collected.

 

[snarling bee]

You hear this a lot and I’m going to call an element of bull sh*t

So if they found a ewe needing lambing and could pull it they’d just kill it instead because none of them can lamb a sheep pull the other one.

Plenty of us on here will shoot a ewe that we cannot lamb, or has various other issues, rather than take to a vet. And plenty of folk put a sheep down with a knife or blunt trauma.

Sure they have unshepherded lambing, but I bet they don’t actually lose much of a higher % of ewes than we do one once or twice daily checks. And I think you’ll find plenty of crap farmers in the uk not checking sheep properly and losing far More!

The whole point was to improve the breed so they would be able to lamb themselves, don't want to keep anything unless the mother had lambed itself.

 

[glasshouse]

We dont need red as there is a road user charge per kilometer to pay on diesel road vehicles, this equates to around 60c litre on a Landcruiser.
Fuel is the same cost the world over, what is different is the tax on the fuel and how that tax is collected.

I know all that, but running a hilux off road on white is hardly expensive at 60p
We have to pay currently £1.30 litre to drive off road

 

[glasshouse]

Which illustrates there are different outlooks and opinions. Personally I could not see an animal suffer if I had the ability to put it out of its misery and would have done the same as the Kiwi instead of waiting for an hour or so for a vet to turn up.

I had a similiar case with a human.
My landlords wife had taken ill and called 999.

The ambulance arrived but they refused to enter as there was a dog and they were waiting on a dog handler
I asked how long would that take, they said an hour.
I told them to stand aside, i went in and dealt with the dog and let them in to assist her.
But She was already dead

 

[stewart]

I know all that, but running a hilux off road on white is hardly expensive at 60p
We have to pay currently £1.30 litre to drive off road

If your running your Hi-Lux off road why are you putting white diesel in it?

 

[glasshouse]

If your running your Hi-Lux off road why are you putting white diesel in it?

Because thats the law
If i got caught in town with red its big trouble
No way can we dedicate a vehivle for off road only

 

[Ffermer Bach]

in my opinion the Kiwi

I have read that to put a horse down is better with a bullet rather than an injection (less suffering), however at horse racing, they have stopped shooting horses that need to be euthanised because it upsets the public watching the races.

 

[kiwi pom]

We dont need red as there is a road user charge per kilometer to pay on diesel road vehicles, this equates to around 60c litre on a Landcruiser.
Fuel is the same cost the world over, what is different is the tax on the fuel and how that tax is collected.

What's the rego and road users like for a HiLux or Ranger these days?
Or are they the same for all diesel cars?

 

[stewart]

Because thats the law
If i got caught in town with red its big trouble
No way can we dedicate a vehivle for off road only

The law here is that you need to pay a road user charge for diesel vehicles, if the vehicle is used off road then you can claim the RUC back for the ks done off road, most people don't bother as the cost of paperwork is more than the rebate, the milk tankers claim it back as do forestry trucks, easiest way is have the vehicle fitted with a GPS tracker which logs use on and off road.

 

[stewart]

What's the rego and road users like for a HiLux or Ranger these days?
Or are they the same for all diesel cars?

Rego is slightly different, RUC the same based on weight of vehicle.

 

[JD-Kid]

the ute tax will be on all cars not just Utes so a new SUV will be taxed as well the big diffrence is there is not a EV or many hybrids to replace them
im 51 and can recall every one having a trailer years ago not so common now days as even town folk will have a ute to cart things around also towing boat etc
fuel use on newer ones a hell of a lot better but motors are behind whats in the Utes in the uk Europe etc as fair as emissions go so the makers. could tidy up things. quite easy

 

[glasshouse]

The law here is that you need to pay a road user charge for diesel vehicles, if the vehicle is used off road then you can claim the RUC back for the ks done off road, most people don't bother as the cost of paperwork is more than the rebate, the milk tankers claim it back as do forestry trucks, easiest way is have the vehicle fitted with a GPS tracker which logs use on and off road.

So what are the numbers for road charge for a hilux?

 

[SteveHants]

I have read that to put a horse down is better with a bullet rather than an injection (less suffering), however at horse racing, they have stopped shooting horses that need to be euthanised because it upsets the public watching the races.

The only reason they don't shoot anything is the perception/mess.
Lethal injection is not always a pleasant way to go.