NZ to limit PKE

[sidjon]

Have spoken to a couple of mates about this and with lots of mud and not that much grass are Fonterra think about the cows or the greenies.........
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/far...rra-wants-farmers-to-cut-back-on-palm-kernels

 

[Gulli]

I've never understood why they feed so much of it anyway. I know its cheap but its not that great a feed and its bloody horrible stuff, like eating sandy soil...

 

[lazy farmer]

because its cheap,easily available in the NZ,the cows self regulate so is very easy to feed out very little CAP EX required, its a useful grass replacer when it gets dry,its useful for farmers focused on profit not yield. need I go on?

 

[Gulli]

If you like
We never fed it ad lib except to calves, I guess availability is a big thing for them, until the boat is late and half the country runs out.

 

[lazy farmer]

reading the article just goes to prove that NZ farmers are as bad as the rest of us! give them a higher milk price and they ll spend it some how. just as john roche said nearly all the extra income went back out again as higher feed cost as either higher production per hectare or per cow was sought.

 

[sidjon]

Fonterra are probably looking to slow production down? But seem strange not to limit it to1095kg per year and not to 3kg a day, think this is what is getting peoples back up, mean would you listen to your milk buyer or your nutritionist when feed your cows?

 

[Gulli]

reading the article just goes to prove that NZ farmers are as bad as the rest of us! give them a higher milk price and they ll spend it some how. just as john roche said nearly all the extra income went back out again as higher feed cost as either higher production per hectare or per cow was sought.

Trouble is, on an individual basis it makes sense to increase production per cow to an optimum level (whatever that might be!) But when everyone does it the job goes down the pan

 

[lazy farmer]

Trouble is, on an individual basis it makes sense to increase production per cow to an optimum level (whatever that might be!) But when everyone does it the job goes down the pan

I would disagree their i'm afraid

 

[Gulli]

I would disagree their i'm afraid

Per hectare then

 

[lazy farmer]

current conditions in fact always would suggest optimum production is to stock to what ever your hectare will grow. simples,and it would lower production

 

[sidjon]

Most would drop back to 2.5 cows/ha, but if you can find it on dairyNZ there is chart showing the top 20% of each system are make good profit, so goes back to a profitable farmer will make money how ever they farm,

 

[FonterraFarmer]

reading the article just goes to prove that NZ farmers are as bad as the rest of us! give them a higher milk price and they ll spend it some how. just as john roche said nearly all the extra income went back out again as higher feed cost as either higher production per hectare or per cow was sought.

Never used it here, never will either.Spend a dollar to make a dollar or more, not earn a dollar to spend a dollar or more

 

[Will Blackburn]

Most would drop back to 2.5 cows/ha, but if you can find it on dairyNZ there is chart showing the top 20% of each system are make good profit, so goes back to a profitable farmer will make money how ever they farm,

That suggests the manner of farming is somehow irrelevant in being profitable?

 

[FonterraFarmer]

That suggests the manner of farming is somehow irrelevant in being profitable?

A few years ago I was involved in DairyBase, now run by Dairy NZ, that was something that the local consulting officer pointed out to me, that profitability and production do have a relationship but you can get extremes at both ends of the scale.
Are you a better dairy farmer if you have a Fendt than a Deere?

 

[glasshouse]

i donty see how palm kernel can get past the strict biosecurity.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

i donty see how palm kernel can get past the strict biosecurity.

Probably the same way they export hay from North America to Japan.

 

[glasshouse]

Probably the same way they export hay from North America to Japan.

but nz is supposed to be tighter than anywhere.

 

[JD-Kid]

there are alot of other ways of lifting output with out PKE with the drop in price of milk people will be loseing even more feeding it out so people will be looking hard at there bottom line not lt's in the vat for willy waveing at the pub ..well yer don't see many of the dairy boys at the pub in the frist place

 

[sidjon]

Are you a better dairy farmer if you have a Fendt than a Deere?

The best farmers still have David Brown, so says my tight arsed dutch mates

 

[JD-Kid]

The best farmers still have David Brown, so says my tight arsed dutch mates

ummmm are valtras the new DB's FF??