NZ - UK trade deal.

toquark

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NZ-UK Trade deal - BoJO (who else) "We've scrummed down, we've packed tight, and together we've got the ball over the line and we have a deal. And I think it's a great deal."

Ms Ardern said: "I loved your use of rugby metaphors, but if we were going to continue that on, then naturally it would conclude with the All Blacks winning.
She'd probably be correct
 

JP1

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Livestock Farmer
Prototype bullshyte detector....

It's not quite working perfectly in every situation just yet, but it certainly reacted correctly upon hearing Boris's claims about this NZ trade deal 👍
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Will it make much difference?
She is nothing more than a female New Zeeland version of Terdeau , so probably not, considering the hostility her government has shown to primary industry, SME's and the fact anything this current NZ PM is implicated isn't done for the benift of New Zealanders rather in raising her own profile.....
The sooner she gets a P45 the better for the good of NZ!!!🤥😉
 
NZ-UK Trade deal - BoJO (who else) "We've scrummed down, we've packed tight, and together we've got the ball over the line and we have a deal. And I think it's a great deal."

Ms Ardern said: "I loved your use of rugby metaphors, but if we were going to continue that on, then naturally it would conclude with the All Blacks winning.
Ffs, does she even watch rugby??? 🤔🤥😉😄
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
I saw this yesterday morning . It was reported to be false later in the day.
I certainly hope it is 🤞
It may well be false, but the government sentiment behind this philosophy almost certainly isn't. Their concerted effort to demonise red meat plus added red tape and subsidy removal, whilst increasing cheap imports will drive the UK cost of production above the market price. Rewinding and tree planting then become the only future for many upland farms. :( :mad:
 

DrDunc

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Dunsyre
Text from the “deal” if this works
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Now then, quick Google of the figures.....

Beef boys needn't get their panties in too much of a bunch just yet:

UK beef production 926 thousand tonnes. NZ getting to export (up to) 12 thousand tonnes initially, up from 450. An increase of roughly 1.25%


HOWEVER, the writing is up there in feckin high letters for those of us with things who go BAA.....

UK sheep production 300 thousand tonnes, a third of which was exported to the EU. NZ was sending up to 114 thousand tonnes our way, but Asian demand after their pigs got swine flu has soaked up much of that. Indeed it's helped create the current pleasant lamb price.

But, Bojo the clown has tentatively agreed to let NZ stick another 35 thousand tonnes our way......

An initial increase of 30% in sheep meat imports to the UK

30% more meat that costs an awful lot less to reach the supermarket shelves than what they're currently having to pay us for our lambs and auld ewes.

Aye 30% sheep meat increase
 

Ted M

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Shropshire
It may well be false, but the government sentiment behind this philosophy almost certainly isn't. Their concerted effort to demonise red meat plus added red tape and subsidy removal, whilst increasing cheap imports will drive the UK cost of production above the market price. Rewinding and tree planting then become the only future for many upland farms. :( :mad:
Yes, I quite agree.
The narrative is clear, however wrong it is 🤬
 

Sandpit Farm

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Derbyshire
Now then, quick Google of the figures.....

Beef boys needn't get their panties in too much of a bunch just yet:

UK beef production 926 thousand tonnes. NZ getting to export (up to) 12 thousand tonnes initially, up from 450. An increase of roughly 1.25%


HOWEVER, the writing is up there in feckin high letters for those of us with things who go BAA.....

UK sheep production 300 thousand tonnes, a third of which was exported to the EU. NZ was sending up to 114 thousand tonnes our way, but Asian demand after their pigs got swine flu has soaked up much of that. Indeed it's helped create the current pleasant lamb price.

But, Bojo the clown has tentatively agreed to let NZ stick another 35 thousand tonnes our way......

An initial increase of 30% in sheep meat imports to the UK

30% more meat that costs an awful lot less to reach the supermarket shelves than what they're currently having to pay us for our lambs and auld ewes.

Aye 30% sheep meat increase

Yes that's a worry on the lamb and the dairy side. For dairy it will almost certainly be branded product.

On the beef side, I would see that as very concerning if I were an Irish Beef farmer. It will almost certainly affect their ability to export Irish Beef to GB.
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
NZ-UK Trade deal - BoJO (who else) "We've scrummed down, we've packed tight, and together we've got the ball over the line and we have a deal. And I think it's a great deal."

Ms Ardern said: "I loved your use of rugby metaphors, but if we were going to continue that on, then naturally it would conclude with the All Blacks winning.
First bit of sense from her in many years, I hope she starts a brand new habit. Basically all her parties promises are "agreements in principle", the principle of course is to say all the right things at the right times.

Ask a Kiwi what she's/they've actually achieved out of all of that.. get a comfy seat, a thermos, and maybe your razor, because you'll be there for a bit
 

JimAndy

Member
Mixed Farmer
Yes that's a worry on the lamb and the dairy side. For dairy it will almost certainly be branded product.

On the beef side, I would see that as very concerning if I were an Irish Beef farmer. It will almost certainly affect their ability to export Irish Beef to GB.

don't know why we need to be worried about NZ, sheep and cattle numbers are well down and still falling, and with a market focus on Asia, iIcan't see many NZ farmers going "lets give up a prime market so we can sell cheap food to the UK". and even if the farmers in NZ decided to sell it cheap. by the time you factor in the ever raising costs of transport/shipping. it won't be cheap by the time it gets here
 

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