oat milk

Jsmith2211

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Somerset
Been having a think about diversification and ways in which we could add value to stuff we can grow. Perhaps oat milk is a good way to do this? Oats are easy to grow and do well on our heavy clay soil, only problem is i have no idea what machinery you need to make it on any kind of scale or how it is made. Does anybody have any experience with this?
 

Jsmith2211

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Somerset
Show me the tit on an oat
i wouldnt buy it myself, but if people want to pay for it im happy to take their money... I'm just trying to find ways of making more money from less acres rather than getting more acrage which isnt always possible. The other thing about oat milk is that the kind of people that buy it arent short of money and dont expect it to be cheap, unlike propper milk which people expect to be cheap and everybody wants to be able to afford it. Oat milk sold off of the same farm where the oats were grown, got to have some extra value to these eco lot.
 

DaveGrohl

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Location
Cumbria
i used to until i learnt about the sugar content equivalent (despite no added sugar)

its worse than a can of Coke !
Are you talking about the starch? Or is sugar content equivalent something else? Sounds like starch to me but then I'm not a qualified "nutritionist".
 

delilah

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Hampton

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Location
Shropshire
Have shared this on here before, as it shows that all the criticism of 'oat milk' is misguided. The problem isn't the product, but corporate control. Same as everything.

https://www.glebefarmfoods.co.uk/product/glebe-farm-gluten-free-pureoaty-barista-oat-drink-1l/

And to prove the point, in trying to find the link again I see that Oatly are gunning for them.

https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/oatly-takes-cambridgeshire-family-farm-20785862
I can’t see Oatly have a leg to stand on!
The blue is a different colour, the design is different as is the font.
In fact, I can’t really see any similarities?
 

delilah

Member
I can’t see Oatly have a leg to stand on!
The blue is a different colour, the design is different as is the font.
In fact, I can’t really see any similarities?

I would imagine that it is nothing to do with packaging, and everything to do with trying to bully and intimidate. Oatly will want the market to themselves, same as any corporation developing novel foodstuffs is going to want the market to themselves, so they're sending a message out to any oat grower thinking of doing the processing themselves.
 

Wigeon

Member
Arable Farmer
Welcome to american corporates and their way of doing business:

"Your product is a bit like mine, not much, but you know what I'll sue you anyway. It'll cost you xxxxx in legal fees. That's small beer to me. You might win, you might not, but either way it'll be a royal PITA for you. Either that or you give me 50% of your profits going forward. Let me know. Have a nice weekend."
 

Clive

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BASE UK Member
Location
Lichfield
Are you talking about the starch? Or is sugar content equivalent something else? Sounds like starch to me but then I'm not a qualified "nutritionist".


The Sugar
Oatly’s main ingredient is their oat base, which they make through a process of breaking down raw oats into their loose fibers to mix them with water and create a watery oat-based liquid that “contains macronutrients from the oats, in other words, protein, fat, and carbohydrates.” (source).

The problem with this process is that it creates quite a bit of a sugar called maltose, which is why Oatly packaging shows 7g added sugar per serving. Of all the different kinds of sugars you can eat, maltose has the highest glycemic index, with a rating of 105 out of 100. For comparison, table sugar has a rating of 65, and the high-fructose corn syrup you get in a Coca-Cola has a GI around 65-75. There’s less of it, but the sugar in Oatly has a higher gram-for-gram impact on your blood sugar than the HFCS in Coca-Cola.

Putting 12oz of Oatly into your latte and adjusting for the higher GI of maltose means adding almost a tablespoon of table sugar to your drink. Put a tablespoon of sugar next to your coffee next time you have a chance and seriously consider if that’s a decision that’s “made for humans.”
 

Jsmith2211

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Somerset
so how would i go about making the stuff? Would I need a special variety of oats? What machinery is needed for making it on a small scale? And are there any stupid laws i need to comply with when i do it such as sending it off for samples?
 

Clive

Staff Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Lichfield
Dont know about milk but oat yogurt is lovely .

the milk is lovely, I much preferred it to dairy milk ............. but things with that much sugar are lovely so no surprise there !

shows The utter power of marketIng really doesn’t it - people are choosing this as its perceived as more healthy that dairy when in fact it’s worse than a can of coke !
 

Jsmith2211

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Somerset
the milk is lovely, I much preferred it to dairy milk ............. but things with that much sugar are lovely so no surprise there !

shows The utter power of marketIng really doesn’t it - people are choosing this as its perceived as more healthy that dairy when in fact it’s worse than a can of coke !
Doesnt really matter if its good for you or not really, if people want to buy it and pay a decent ammount for what is essentially oat flavoured water then im happy to take their money!
 

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