Obamagate!!

[Danllan]

Half is against Trump, I recognise that, which is going to be a lasting legacy of this nonsense and they will all be poorer for it.

Nahhh, that's the good thing about democracy, you can bin the unwanted and overwrite and ignore them. Remember Bliar?

Food time!

 

[le bon paysan]

President Obama wasn't going on any foreign adventures and he wasn't going to do anything about any amendment, much least the second. Half the political spectrum was against him. And this is the sad thing about American politics now, it's fudged.

He did venture into Pakistan to kill Osama bin Laden

 

[ollie989898]

Any more news about the draining of the swamp then? Time ticking on and that crooked Hillary, Comey, Sessions, McGabe, Clapper et al all still walking free?

 

[Ashtree]

What’s all this about the top brass military generals openly criticising Trump? Do they have enough of this clown at this point?

 

[ollie989898]

The drumpf fan boys clearly don't have much to say, turns out the Mueller investigation (the report of which is now released by the DoJ though heavily redacted) really delivered, 199 criminal indictments including some foreign nationals. Mueller report states that there was zero cooperation from the White house team which means there remains a sizeable amount of work left to do.

 

[bluegreen]

Well the only people who would believe the Mueller fiasco was just and fair would be establishment operatives or sympathisers which Ollie I suspect you might be one or the other of...………...charged with maintaining the TFF narrative no doubt!!

I find it interesting that this emerging and seismic topic to be (Obamagate) has been hidden away under Brexit (Wtf) when it is politics through and through! Just shows me how much clout the old boys network has on the forum. If im incorrect Clive, then change the thread to Brexit and politics, or better still just create one thread headed "Politics".

Information that came out this week from the Flynn atrocity clearly implicates both Biden and Obama in trying to undermine and oust Trump before he sets one foot in the Whitehouse. Which is ironic because coming events will mean Biden himself wont set one foot in the Whitehouse either LOL.
Thankfully Attorney General Barr and investigator Durham are decent law abiding men unlike the snakes that you think so highly of, and im very confident justice will be served on the coup planners, all the way up to Barry O himself, although maybe into 2021 given how many obstacles get thrown in the way by the Deep States many allies.
And don't you worry about Donald either, he is playing a very shrewd game, people love an underdog and as the fake polls show his support dropping it just plays into his stubborn bull headed arrogant strengths!!

 

[ollie989898]

For Godsake man: President Obama warned Trump that Flynn was dirty before Trump took office. Does that strike you as the actions of someone looking to 'oust' Trump? You are seeing conspiracies that don't exist. They knew Flynn was dirty, and sure enough the bloke begins his tenure by lying to the Vice President and then the FBI. There would have been zero damage to Trump if he simply sacked the bloke in the light of these facts.

Mueller fiasco? Err, it was a legally conducted investigation, many people were indicted and then prosecuted because of what was uncovered. Several people doing jail time right now for it, too. There is proof, without doubt that the Russian government tried to interfere with the US election, there is no argument or cause for confusion on that. Mueller investigated that fully. What is more disturbing is:

1. Many members of Trump's staff refusing to cooperate with the FBI or citing 'executive privilege'. If they nor the administration at large have anything to hide, why try to stonewall the FBI? Trump surely wanted a quick and thorough investigation to clear him and get back to business so he could clear his name with voters?

2. Given that Trump and his team were then investigated for obstruction of justice, again, why stonewall the FBI and why halt the release of the Mueller report in full- it's heavily redacted in several areas in it's released form. For someone who has declared his innocence all along, doesn't it strike you as odd he won't let the full report out?

 

[bluegreen]

I don't need to engage in the minutiae of the Russian collusion conspiracy Ollie because I know the biggest picture.
Russia had nothing to do with the election, Clinton and her deep state allies tried to rig it as they always do, but this time something else stopped them and allowed the true result to stand. A Trump win.
I know what did it and I know it will make sure Trump wins in November, no matter what your team thinks they are going to do to get a corrupt and early onset dementia sufferer into Washington DC. The 350 year old reign of the british /Bolshevik empire is over and it aint coming back!!

 

[Muck Spreader]

I know the biggest picture. Russia had nothing to do with the election,

The naivest statement I have yet seen. The Kremlin has been hugely involved in influencing political campaigns in dozens of counties in the last ten years including the UK , France, Italy, Ukraine, all the Baltic states most of the eastern EU states, as well as the US. To deny this is just foolish.

 

[ollie989898]

I don't need to engage in the minutiae of the Russian collusion conspiracy Ollie because I know the biggest picture.
Russia had nothing to do with the election, Clinton and her deep state allies tried to rig it as they always do, but this time something else stopped them and allowed the true result to stand. A Trump win.
I know what did it and I know it will make sure Trump wins in November, no matter what your team thinks they are going to do to get a corrupt and early onset dementia sufferer into Washington DC. The 350 year old reign of the british /Bolshevik empire is over and it aint coming back!!

Russia interfered with the US Presidential election. There is no denying that.

Collusion in an election is not a crime, that exact wording is idiotic and was never investigated because the terminology defined in US law does not use that word. The correct word is 'conspiracy'. The Mueller investigation was stonewalled, but 199 people were indicted nonetheless. Some people are now doing jail terms because of it.

I don't know what you mean by early onset dementia, if you look at Trump he often shows signs of some kind of neurological disorder.

 

[Ashtree]

Russia interfered with the US Presidential election. There is no denying that.

Collusion in an election is not a crime, that exact wording is idiotic and was never investigated because the terminology defined in US law does not use that word. The correct word is 'conspiracy'. The Mueller investigation was stonewalled, but 199 people were indicted nonetheless. Some people are now doing jail terms because of it.

I don't know what you mean by early onset dementia, if you look at Trump he often shows signs of some kind of neurological disorder.

Practically half the nation must share his neurological issues, as they blindly follow him and will vote for him. ?

 

[ollie989898]

Practically half the nation must share his neurological issues, as they blindly follow him and will vote for him. ?

I don't get it, either. Half the Republican party apparently don't, either. Any man who mocks somebody like John McCain the way Trump did should be destroyed by public opinion and ran through the streets whilst the crowd pelt him with fruit and veg in my book.

 

[bluegreen]

John McCain!!! ……………...War hero…………..That's not what I was told from an impeccable source. He was the military industrial complexes best salesman for years, there was never a war he didn't like!!

Trump knows a lot more about certain individuals than you guys and he to knows about McCains very dubious war claims, hence his remarks and supposed mockery. Remember, the victor writes the history books.

And when the global media is 95% run by the elites/ the swamp, then a biased and false narrative is easily achieved. Even Mother Teresa wouldn't be safe from the current media jackals.

Treason, sedition and insurrection charges are on the way!!

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[ollie989898]

FFs, you couldn't make this up. That you would denigrate McCain in support of President Bonespurs tells us all we need to know about you.

 

[Muck Spreader]

John McCain!!! ……………...War hero…………..That's not what I was told from an impeccable source. He was the military industrial complexes best salesman for years, there was never a war he didn't like!!

Trump knows a lot more about certain individuals than you guys and he to knows about McCains very dubious war claims, hence his remarks and supposed mockery. Remember, the victor writes the history books.

And when the global media is 95% run by the elites/ the swamp, then a biased and false narrative is easily achieved. Even Mother Teresa wouldn't be safe from the current media jackals.

Treason, sedition and insurrection charges are on the way!!

I

I would suggest being torchered by the North Vietnamese for 5 years after being shot down classes him as war hero in my book. Whereas Trump with his feeble draft dodging (5 times) excuses must be classed as snivelling coward. Lucky for him it wasn't the Civil war hes was hiding from as he would have been branded and flogged as a coward.