Oh dear….

[Danllan]

History of Yesterday: Uncovering the Events That Shaped Our World

History of Yesterday delves into the rich tapestry of our past to uncover the people, events, and cultures that have shaped the world we know today.

historyofyesterday.com

Oh well done, you googled something... but entirely wrong and stupidly inaccurate throughout - where is this country of 'Great Britain'?; take a wander through the link below and make sure you check the veracity of those you quote, particularly with regard to their political bias. I know you learnt the term 'revisionist' from me, but there was no need to become one...

Concentration Camps Existed Long Before Auschwitz | History | Smithsonian Magazine

In fact, if you are familiar with the classical world, I recommend Thucydides in particular, you'll know that the concentration camp existed - but by other names - when most of the our own peoples were still running around with their arses painted blue.

 

[wanton dwarf]

and what you described is a border

@arcobob is claiming that we don't need those controls

None of those controls occur at a border.

 

[wanton dwarf]

History of Yesterday: Uncovering the Events That Shaped Our World

History of Yesterday delves into the rich tapestry of our past to uncover the people, events, and cultures that have shaped the world we know today.

historyofyesterday.com

Isrealites ?
Egypt ? Who built the pyramids ?

There are lots of civilisations where military battles resulted in populations being enslaved and camped.

Slavery occurred in civilizations as old as Sumer, as well as in almost every other ancient civilization, including ancient Egypt, ancient China, the Akkadian Empire, Assyria, Babylonia, Persia, ancient Greece, ancient India, the Roman Empire, the Arab Islamic Caliphate and Sultanate, Nubia and the pre-Columbian civilizations of the Americas.[17] Ancient slavery represents a mixture of debt-slavery, punishment for crime, the enslavement of prisoners of war, child abandonment, and the birth of slave children to slaves.

 

[wanton dwarf]

Phil “Bruiser” Hogan, Irish EU commissioner for trade, was forced in August 2020 to resign or be sacked, because he flagrantly broke Covid travel restrictions while on a visit to Ireland from Brussels. Political pressure in Ireland on the government plus pressure on Ursula Von der Lyon, forced Hogan out despite his resistance.
So there we have the elected government of Ireland, forcing the president of the EU Commission to do what the people of Ireland rightfully demanded. We sacked our own commissioner through the democratic system.
Now be a good chap and do tell us how your democratic system dealt with your own similar situation. Mr. Cummins…..

I think you are sersiously confused by words and their meanings.

Cummings was not a Politician, he was not elected, he was employed as a civil servant - an employee. Cummings did face political pressure from Liberals and Labour to be sacked.

But you may not have noticed that Liberals and Labour are not in power. I know that is confusing to you because you think your Left wing politics overrules everyone else's.

Regardless, voters in Ireland did not vote to remove your Commissioner, Politicians removed your Commissioner. That's isn't Democracy that is a Bureacracy. Which is almost what the EU is .. but I'd add Authoritarian, an Authoritarian Bureacracy.

 

[Danllan]

@stewart, @Agrostar and @JimAndy you 'liked' the post that falsely claimed the British invented concentration / extermination camps - you know, the one that referenced a page by a woke tw at who lied from start to finish.

Research from primary sources would rubbish it anyway, but since I supplied a referenced page from an entirely reliable academic source which completely rebuts the lies, will you now 'unlike' the dishonest post that defames the UK, or were the likes only there because of the traducing, regardless of its being untrue?


Edited: I wrote 'video' instead of 'page' for the ref' given, now corrected.

 

[BrianV]

Time to bin your i phone with it's NHS app, over a period of a week three staff members on very different days have been informed they have been somewhere where someone has tested positive & must now isolate, all have had PCR tests & are clear but makes no difference.
With the virus now rife in the schools & younger people if you eat at a pub give your details & a customer gets a positive test everyone at that pub will be told to isolate, with the masses of holiday makers everywhere it's only a mater of time before everything grinds to a bloody halt!

 

[Ashtree]

@stewart, @Agrostar and @JimAndy you 'liked' the post that falsely claimed the British invented concentration / extermination camps - you know, the one that referenced a page by a woke tw at who lied from start to finish.

Research from primary sources would rubbish it anyway, but since I supplied a referenced page from an entirely reliable academic source which completely rebuts the lies, will you now 'unlike' the dishonest post that defames the UK, or were the likes only there because of the traducing, regardless of its being untrue?


Edited: I wrote 'video' instead of 'page' for the ref' given, now corrected.

Oh dear…. it really doesn’t take a lot to make the mask slip. The innate instinct to default to abuse of other posters, not withstanding the thin and ineffective disguise, pretty much always wins out in the end. There are very few members on here, who are of that ilk, but the few who are, do take from the establishments “ambience”! You can put lipstick on a pig, but it sure as hell won’t mask the smell….

 

[Danllan]

Oh dear…. it really doesn’t take a lot to make the mask slip. The innate instinct to default to abuse of other posters, not withstanding the thin and ineffective disguise, pretty much always wins out in the end. There are very few members on here, who are of that ilk, but the few who are, do take from the establishments “ambience”! You can put lipstick on a pig, but it sure as hell won’t mask the smell….

Yet another post in which you won't admit you were wrong and posted lies... still not sure whether you're just a teenager from the arse-end of Ballymun who can't get a girlfriend, or are really lurking somewhere in Moscow / Beijing / Tehran...

 

[Suffolk Serf]

Time to bin your i phone with it's NHS app, over a period of a week three staff members on very different days have been informed they have been somewhere where someone has tested positive & must now isolate, all have had PCR tests & are clear but makes no difference.
With the virus now rife in the schools & younger people if you eat at a pub give your details & a customer gets a positive test everyone at that pub will be told to isolate, with the masses of holiday makers everywhere it's only a mater of time before everything grinds to a bloody halt!

None of my staff were daft enough to get the NHS app thankfully.

 

[Pasty]

None of my staff were daft enough to get the NHS app thankfully.

What kind of moron would? Soon it will have extra 'features' to add to your 'freedom'.

 

[Suffolk Serf]

What kind of moron would? Soon it will have extra 'features' to add to your 'freedom'.

Morons that wanted lots of government sanctioned extra days off work.

 

[JCMaloney]

The NHS Covid app is fine ......................... just turn the Bluetooth off as we are told to do at work.

 

[stewart]

@stewart, @Agrostar and @JimAndy you 'liked' the post that falsely claimed the British invented concentration / extermination camps - you know, the one that referenced a page by a woke tw at who lied from start to finish.

Research from primary sources would rubbish it anyway, but since I supplied a referenced page from an entirely reliable academic source which completely rebuts the lies, will you now 'unlike' the dishonest post that defames the UK, or were the likes only there because of the traducing, regardless of its being untrue?


Edited: I wrote 'video' instead of 'page' for the ref' given, now corrected.

My like of the post was due to you requesting @Ashtree admit that he was wrong in his assertion regarding the British concentration camps in South Africa and him responding with an article backing up his view and while the article has a sensationalist headline the body of the article seems fairly accurate, on that basis I will not be withdrawing my like of the post.
My own personal view is that while the British did use concentration camps in South Africa they were nowhere near the same as the ones operated by the Nazis during WW2. Having a close personal family friend who survived both Auschwitz and Dachau along with visiting Auschwitz/Birkanau the atrocities carried out there were utterly deplorable, whereas the Boer camps were simply poorly managed and ill equipped.

 

[Danllan]

My like of the post was due to you requesting @Ashtree admit that he was wrong in his assertion regarding the British concentration camps in South Africa and him responding with an article backing up his view and while the article has a sensationalist headline the body of the article seems fairly accurate, on that basis I will not be withdrawing my like of the post.
My own personal view is that while the British did use concentration camps in South Africa they were nowhere near the same as the ones operated by the Nazis during WW2. Having a close personal family friend who survived both Auschwitz and Dachau along with visiting Auschwitz/Birkanau the atrocities carried out there were utterly deplorable, whereas the Boer camps were simply poorly managed and ill equipped.

FFS, follow the plot! I've never disputed British use of concentration camps, it's an historical fact; what I have pointed out is that a) they were not a British invention; and b) they were not extermination camps, like those of the idiot's German friends and what he originally ans subsequently implied.

As for the quoted page, if you think that credible you'll lap up some of the crap that people on the other end of the political spectrum post to deny the German genocide(s). Or is that the wrong bias...?

 

[holywell farmer]

The NHS Covid app is fine ......................... just turn the Bluetooth off as we are told to do at work.

Took the uk government 4 attempts to get a covid app that worked.

 

[arcobob]

Time to bin your i phone with it's NHS app, over a period of a week three staff members on very different days have been informed they have been somewhere where someone has tested positive & must now isolate, all have had PCR tests & are clear but makes no difference.
With the virus now rife in the schools & younger people if you eat at a pub give your details & a customer gets a positive test everyone at that pub will be told to isolate, with the masses of holiday makers everywhere it's only a mater of time before everything grinds to a bloody halt!

One alternative is to stay well away from anywhere that is required to collect information. I feel very sorry for the hospitality industry but my experience indicates that you can expect second rate services, second rate food and an invitation to hang yourself out to dry. Better to stay at home .
Hugh Jampton.

 

[JimAndy]

@stewart, @Agrostar and @JimAndy you 'liked' the post that falsely claimed the British invented concentration / extermination camps - you know, the one that referenced a page by a woke tw at who lied from start to finish.

Research from primary sources would rubbish it anyway, but since I supplied a referenced page from an entirely reliable academic source which completely rebuts the lies, will you now 'unlike' the dishonest post that defames the UK, or were the likes only there because of the traducing, regardless of its being untrue?


Edited: I wrote 'video' instead of 'page' for the ref' given, now corrected.

first off all no one claimed that the British invented Extermination camps, that is down to you associating concentration camps and extermination camps together due to what the Nazi did ( tho concentration camps in general are not counted as nice places but that normally down to mismanagement not an official desire to kill people)

You are partially right, yes camps did exist before the 2nd boer war and and were normally called thing like Work camps. refugee camps, mission camps and such. they were NOT called concentration camps because until the British Army invented that term to describe what they were doing to the British Press in the 2nd boer war. Hence the British Invented the first concentration camps.

now i suppose you could be one of those woke type person who like to recon history by applying modern terms to historical events , but even at that they still no concentration camps pre 2rd boer war and the modern term is Internment camp due to the way people have linked concentration / extermination camps

 

[JimAndy]

now a question for @Danllan

'the British invented the concentration camp' and in your implication that they were extermination camps like the ones your chums the Germans proved so keen on.

why did you use the word Chums, what are you trying to imply ?

giving that we talking about Germans in the WW2 and you saying that ash has nazi friends or that Ireland in WW2 was a nazi ally ?

 

[Danllan]

first off all no one claimed that the British invented Extermination camps, that is down to you associating concentration camps and extermination camps together due to what the Nazi did ( tho concentration camps in general are not counted as nice places but that normally down to mismanagement not an official desire to kill people)

You are partially right, yes camps did exist before the 2nd boer war and and were normally called thing like Work camps. refugee camps, mission camps and such. they were NOT called concentration camps because until the British Army invented that term to describe what they were doing to the British Press in the 2nd boer war. Hence the British Invented the first concentration camps.

now i suppose you could be one of those woke type person who like to recon history by applying modern terms to historical events , but even at that they still no concentration camps pre 2rd boer war and the modern term is Internment camp due to the way people have linked concentration / extermination camps

Err... get your facts right chum, @Asstree made the claim some time back and never admitted it as wrong; I raised it again recently as an example of his never admitting that he misleads, which is still the case.

now a question for @Danllan



why did you use the word Chums, what are you trying to imply ?

giving that we talking about Germans in the WW2 and you saying that ash has nazi friends or that Ireland in WW2 was a nazi ally ?

The Germans are in the EU - in fact, it could plausibly be argued that they 'are' the EU, certainly they run it to their benefit - and @Asstree is a great fan of the EU, often espousing admiration (or more... ?) for their current Fraurer.

I made no mention of the ROI's nexus with Germany in WW2, but I am aware of them...

 

[Ashtree]

Given the latest chapter and verse in the Boris book of lies, evasion, bungling, fist pumping, foolishness, stupidity, crassness, carelessness, arrogance, incompetence, twattery, etc, etc, the “Oh Dear”, thread deserves another outing. It really is “oh dear” times!