Oil seed rape seed

CJS

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Have some fss left from last year I want to grow the same variety again Am I best to use this years crop or will last years be ok?
 

Brisel

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Midlands
I keep mine for a couple of years. Test the germination to be sure. Count out 100 seeds and put them on wet kitchen paper in a cupboard for a week.

Volunteer oilseed rape lasts for years in the soil - why shouldn't it last a couple of years in a dry shed if kept properly?
 

B'o'B

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Rutland
As @Brisel says if dry rape should keep its germination for years due to its high oil content. I grow seed crops of Rape so I can’t home save and so can’t remember the exact details, but I do remember that with rape seed you should only home save for 1 or 2 generations from certified seed, so in my opinion you would be best using your over yeared seed subject to a germination test as in the post above.
 

CJS

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As @Brisel says if dry rape should keep its germination for years due to its high oil content. I grow seed crops of Rape so I can’t home save and so can’t remember the exact details, but I do remember that with rape seed you should only home save for 1 or 2 generations from certified seed, so in my opinion you would be best using your over yeared seed subject to a germination test as in the post above.

That is just what I was thinking
 
As @Brisel says if dry rape should keep its germination for years due to its high oil content. I grow seed crops of Rape so I can’t home save and so can’t remember the exact details, but I do remember that with rape seed you should only home save for 1 or 2 generations from certified seed, so in my opinion you would be best using your over yeared seed subject to a germination test as in the post above.

Out of interest how much a ton would you get paid for a ton of osr seed? Going by its retail price if must be well over £1000
 

Brisel

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Midlands
It's more than £1000/t! Lots of certification, dressing, bagging, admin, profit margin etc. That's why farm saved is so popular. Just get a clean sample of conventional from your own heap.
 

Brisel

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Midlands
£60-90/ha to the grower for certified dressed seed. £27/ha here for farm saved Campus. Most of that cost is the BSPB royalty and NIAB testing on a small batch. The commodity value of 3 kg/ha seed at £300/t is 30 pence/kg or £9/ha
 
£60-90/ha to the grower for certified dressed seed. £27/ha here for farm saved Campus. Most of that cost is the BSPB royalty and NIAB testing on a small batch. The commodity value of 3 kg/ha seed at £300/t is 30 pence/kg or £9/ha

As Ive long said Conv OSR seed is a total swindle. Im happy to pay a premium for seed to cover the grower premium but the seed premium for Conv Osr is a total rip off - should be similar price to stubble turnips.

We all pay the breeding fee no objection to that. But Im waiting for a company to start producing 20kg bags of the stuff or I may as well simply use my own
 

crazy_bull

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Huntingdon
As Ive long said Conv OSR seed is a total swindle. Im happy to pay a premium for seed to cover the grower premium but the seed premium for Conv Osr is a total rip off - should be similar price to stubble turnips.

We all pay the breeding fee no objection to that. But Im waiting for a company to start producing 20kg bags of the stuff or I may as well simply use my own


You'd all be still growing Jet Neuf if that was the case, it does cost an obscene amount to get a new variety to market, yes there is profit margin also in there.


C B
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
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Midlands
it might even survive flea beetles :LOL:

If we got some of the old insecticides back with it, yes! :)

You might scoff, @crazy_bull but the old boys grew 30 cwt/acre far more cheaply than today's hungry varieties that average that or less yield. It's not all down to the increased area grown providing more pest/disease medium.
 

crazy_bull

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Huntingdon
If we got some of the old insecticides back with it, yes! :)

You might scoff, @crazy_bull but the old boys grew 30 cwt/acre far more cheaply than today's hungry varieties that average that or less yield. It's not all down to the increased area grown providing more pest/disease medium.


is it not down to the land being OSR sick? too much in too close rotation, virgin OSR land still blows tight rotation land out of the water no matter what variety it is?
 

Brisel

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Midlands
is it not down to the land being OSR sick? too much in too close rotation, virgin OSR land still blows tight rotation land out of the water no matter what variety it is?

Partly, yes. Osr grown 1 in 2 or 3 will never yield as well as that on longer rotations. If the potential yield is limited by rotation, why spend a fortune on the latest genetics unless it has a wanted trait e.g. HOLL, HEAR, TuYV resistance, Clearfield etc?

Wish we still were growing Bienvenue and Jet Neuf. They would push 2 ton regularly.

How wide was your rotation back then?
 

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