Old oilseed rape varieties

[glasshouse]

Anyone got some old tall varieties lying about?
Bienvenu, tafal , jet neuf?

 

[Brisel]

Winner?

 

[glasshouse]

Winner?

Is that tall? How old is it?

 

[Brisel]

Is that tall? How old is it?

I’ve combined Winner 8 ft tall. Newer than your list. Early 1990s.

 

[glasshouse]

I’ve combined Winner 8 ft tall. Newer than your list. Early 1990s.

U got seed?

 

[Brisel]

U got seed?

I’m afraid not.

 

[T Hectares]

I’ve combined Winner 8 ft tall. Newer than your list. Early 1990s.

Remember direct cutting Winner with a standard NH header, painful

 

[glasshouse]

Remember direct cutting Winner with a standard NH header, painful

I stopped growing rape about 1999, was it after that?

 

[glasshouse]

Remember direct cutting Winner with a standard NH header, painful

Did it yield?

 

[T Hectares]

I stopped growing rape about 1999, was it after that?

Would’ve been ‘99
Tall, green and painfully slow to cut with a standard header
Yield was ok, but nothing special

 

[tw15]

Anyone got some old tall varieties lying about?
Bienvenu, tafal , jet neuf?

Would love to try some of them to see how they do to compare to the latest varieties .

 

[herman]

They will be the old single low varieties that will be high uric acid.
The double low varieties we grow nowadays are a lot weaker that the old ones.

 

[Hesstondriver]

we were only talking about Lioness the other day and its height compared to current varieties

 

[David.]

Rape today is rubbish. Must be nearly 40 yrs ago that Jet Neuf, Bienvenue etc were pushing 2 ton/ac at £360 ton.
Was not called black gold for no reason.

 

[PSQ]

Rape today is rubbish. Must be nearly 40 yrs ago that Jet Neuf, Bienvenue etc were pushing 2 ton/ac at £360 ton.
Was not called black gold for no reason.

We're still growing Bienvenue.

But only because we lost half a tonne to the acre in a storm in the late '80's, and it's still showing as a pale leggy 'off type' volunteer in the same field

 

[glasshouse]

We're still growing Bienvenue.

But only because we lost half a tonne to the acre in a storm, and it's still showing as a pale 'off type' volunteer in the same field 4 decades later

So they never notice the single low seed?

 

[teslacoils]

Last osr with a decent quantity of ooooph was DK Excel. My life, that produced some material.

Winner before that.

 

[PSQ]

So they never notice the single low seed?

It all blends away when it's on a boat, but we were bricking it a few years ago when 'the trade' said they were tightening up on glucosinate testing levels and testing every lorry load, and threatening to make serious deductions.

But the real issue was having grown HEAR for Frontier up until 10 years ago we knew that we were potentially on thin ice, but luckily the intakes seem to have forgotten about their new rules (I've jinxed it now). You can spot the occasional HEAR volunteer, as it has a very narrow leaf.

 

[Pilatus]

They will be the old single low varieties that will be high uric acid.
The double low varieties we grow nowadays are a lot weaker that the old ones.

Did the old single lows yield better than the latest double low varieties grown now?

 

[glasshouse]

Did the old single lows yield better than the latest double low varieties grown now?

Yes
They also outgrew any weeds