On farm Machinery dispersal sales summer 2020

Location
Devon
Well the first actual physical on farm machinery dispersal sale in the SW under lockdown takes place on the 14th July.

Have any other sales anywhere in the UK been announced yet?
 
There’s one coming up Cheshire direction next month with Hassal brothers iirc, saw it on Facebook the other day but can’t remember details although there was something about only one person per family allowed and as such only one person per vehicle so no getting a lift there off a mate.
 

grainboy

Member
Location
Bedfordshire
Trouble is online auctions seem to be hitting the mark on achieved prices,
Hope we can return to live auctions, do like a good sale,
Question, how does the ring work with online auctions, ????
 

kill

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South West
Trouble is online auctions seem to be hitting the mark on achieved prices,
Hope we can return to live auctions, do like a good sale,
Question, how does the ring work with online auctions, ????
No “knock“ for the stealers tho when one buys and they all stand around and decide who’s actually purchasing and paying/ retailing the machine and the others take cash to walk away!!!! Rather than bidding against each other.
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
Trouble is online auctions seem to be hitting the mark on achieved prices,
Hope we can return to live auctions, do like a good sale,
Question, how does the ring work with online auctions, ????

That they do. Not many would have thought that farmers would be so happy with them.

I saw one item a few years old I was interested in make £2000 recently - brand new cost was £2200 or so. I’ll buy new when I’m ready for it.

I think they work well to be able to think, research, and even just browse through lots that you might miss at a normal sale if you didn’t carefully walk every row.

I don’t think auctioneers are quite so keen and will look forward to returning. Must be quite a bit more work for them photographing everything, plus I guess they have fees from the auction company too which someone has to pay.

Auctionmartsmust be thinking Christmas has come early.
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
No “knock“ for the stealers tho when one buys and they all stand around and decide who’s actually purchasing and paying/ retailing the machine and the others take cash to walk away!!!! Rather than bidding against each other.

It’s funny...as some of those guys often advertise them via eBay afterwards. Seems their methods have inadvertently acted against them.
 

D14

Member
Think pugh's at Ledbury had a 'proper' sale last Saturday with most folk ignoring any distancing

This is just ‘Cock sure’ though and male bravado. Secretly they are all squeaky bum leaking but daren’t distance themselves in fear of being ridiculed by their idiotic mates.
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Online timed are great, just paddle off to a viewing day as an when it’s convenient, then stick a price in your happy to pay an see what happens.

onsite you lose 1/2 the day hovering about waiting for the lot your after to be sold only for the price to be far more than your prepared to pay.

And there in lies the ‘problem’ with online farm sales - too many buyers lobbing in pre-bids before the start of the timed auction, inflating the prices to dealers yard values. And that’s before the lunatics take over in the last minute to skyrocket the price of lots they’ve possibly not even viewed.
Pre-bidders always get sniped, why bother to ratchet up the price unless you’re bidding at the auction close?
And if you’re bidding at the auction close, WTF would anyone ratchet up the price to high heaven a week beforehand?!
Either farmers and buyers are complete idiots, or the auctioneers are working the system with artificial pre bids and waiting for idiots to bite, or a combination of the two.
 

D14

Member
And there in lies the ‘problem’ with online farm sales - too many buyers lobbing in pre-bids before the start of the timed auction, inflating the prices to dealers yard values. And that’s before the lunatics take over in the last minute to skyrocket the price of lots they’ve possibly not even viewed.
Pre-bidders always get sniped, why bother to ratchet up the price unless you’re bidding at the auction close?
And if you’re bidding at the auction close, WTF would anyone ratchet up the price to high heaven a week beforehand?!
Either farmers and buyers are complete idiots, or the auctioneers are working the system with artificial pre bids and waiting for idiots to bite, or a combination of the two.

Auctioneers have been taking bids off the walls and sky for years. It’s standard practise.
 

JLLM

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Tyddewi
I was bidding on an item in the Brown & Co online auction the other day, you could only bid in increments of £500 which I thought was a bit strong.
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Auctioneers have been taking bids off the walls and sky for years. It’s standard practise.
Very true, and not really a problem if it takes the lot to it’s reserve.

Some online auctioneers have been starting the lots at about a third to half of the final prices; one is pitching in with what must be the reserve prices, as the starting prices aren’t shy.
 

bluepower

Member
Livestock Farmer
Trouble is online auctions seem to be hitting the mark on achieved prices,
Hope we can return to live auctions, do like a good sale,
Question, how does the ring work with online auctions, ????
Speaking to an auctioneer he said that the dealers are bidding against each other and don't realise it. Interestingly he said hardly any of the big ticket items are being bought by those dealers either.
 

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