Openreach over reaching their authority

Suffolksucklers

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North Suffolk
We have trouble with openreach as well, keep laying the cable in our ditch or on the verge or in the growing crop šŸ¤¦ all because they can't put it up the existing poles as next door refuses to let them cut his trees around them šŸ¤·. Don't know how many times we have been through it with the flail, cultivator etc. To add insult to injury when they repair it they just leave the old mangled one in situ so we now have multiple cables where they shouldn't be
 

Alchad

Member
OK, no link whatsoever with Openreach, but now weā€™ll into page 2 and of this thread and I detect that not a lot of love lost for Openreach, so just like to be Devils advocate. My take is that while everyone is happy - well overjoyed - to give them a good kicking, how would you feel if they did it by the book - say didnā€™t employ contractors which theoretically are cheaper than direct labour, and tried to do everything as youā€™d wish. So arranging site meeting, re-arranging if you suddenly need to cancel because the hay needs baling, or whatever. The bottom line is that Openreach are installing the kit that gives you broadband ( although not sure if they have the absolute monopoly on this?). Anything such as trying for compensation, sabotaging ducting is only going to add to their costs and eventually come back to the consumers (you) as higher prices.

Alchad

(tin hat being donned) šŸ˜€
 
OK, no link whatsoever with Openreach, but now weā€™ll into page 2 and of this thread and I detect that not a lot of love lost for Openreach, so just like to be Devils advocate. My take is that while everyone is happy - well overjoyed - to give them a good kicking, how would you feel if they did it by the book - say didnā€™t employ contractors which theoretically are cheaper than direct labour, and tried to do everything as youā€™d wish. So arranging site meeting, re-arranging if you suddenly need to cancel because the hay needs baling, or whatever. The bottom line is that Openreach are installing the kit that gives you broadband ( although not sure if they have the absolute monopoly on this?). Anything such as trying for compensation, sabotaging ducting is only going to add to their costs and eventually come back to the consumers (you) as higher prices.

Alchad

(tin hat being donned) šŸ˜€

This is not an anti Openreach post - it is a post wanting to instill respect for property where wayleaves are required to be created.
 

Nearly

Member
Location
North of York
OK, no link whatsoever with Openreach, but now weā€™ll into page 2 and of this thread and I detect that not a lot of love lost for Openreach, so just like to be Devils advocate. My take is that while everyone is happy - well overjoyed - to give them a good kicking, how would you feel if they did it by the book - say didnā€™t employ contractors which theoretically are cheaper than direct labour, and tried to do everything as youā€™d wish. So arranging site meeting, re-arranging if you suddenly need to cancel because the hay needs baling, or whatever. The bottom line is that Openreach are installing the kit that gives you broadband ( although not sure if they have the absolute monopoly on this?). Anything such as trying for compensation, sabotaging ducting is only going to add to their costs and eventually come back to the consumers (you) as higher prices.

Alchad

(tin hat being donned) šŸ˜€
They have been fecking around with this for 2 years. I have regular emails saying it is ongoing. They have all my details, the agreed route and the specifications, conditions etc.

They were last coming in March before the grass started growing. I agreed and told them to let me know and I'd be there to show them the drains and repair them if necessary.
This is all for the benefit for our neighbour who can't think beyond BT. He saw the work happening and couldn't be bothered to let me know either. The neighbour relationship is being recalibrated and the price of a piece of land he wishes to buy has just increased by 10%. Bless him.

We have made alternative arrangements for internet and calls because for 20 years the thin piece of copper hasn't been fit to hold conversations on.

We're not BT customers. f**k 'em!
 

Jim75

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Easter ross
Give it to them with both barrels. They tried to get me to sign off work on land I donā€™t own which lead to a stalemate with them claiming fibre was at the bottom of the garden (it isnā€™t), this went on for about 6 months and in the end they cut our line not for the first time. Absolute cowboys of the highest order. Took it to the chief execs office who can pull strings but thereā€™s so many layers to cut through one end doesnā€™t know what the other is doing. Not even worth taking to the ombudsman as you get sod all
 

vinnie123

Member
Location
dorset
Never mind the subsoiling! Iā€™d be getting the grass cut first šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£
Seriously though looks a tidy enough job and if the subsoiling affects their cables theyā€™ll have to rectify it , lifeā€™s too short .
 

melted welly

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
We have trouble with openreach as well, keep laying the cable in our ditch or on the verge or in the growing crop šŸ¤¦ all because they can't put it up the existing poles as next door refuses to let them cut his trees around them šŸ¤·. Don't know how many times we have been through it with the flail, cultivator etc. To add insult to injury when they repair it they just leave the old mangled one in situ so we now have multiple cables where they shouldn't be
They moled a cable in on the verge at one of our fields, cut the leader, 25ac field backed up for 3 seasons, wild goose chase with the drains, no maps, didnā€™t even know theyā€™d done any work till we bust the (new) cable whilst tracing a pipe we didnā€™t know existed. šŸ˜”.
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
Trouble is the people agreeing to where poles/pipes are to go dont always link up with contractors doing the job and they always act thick and just crack on until someone stops them. Branch clearance and western power are the perfect example of this
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
Trouble is the people agreeing to where poles/pipes are to go dont always link up with contractors doing the job and they always act thick and just crack on until someone stops them. Branch clearance and western power are the perfect example of this
Yep, seen it in action.
Engineer - You will need to hand dig these 4 holes as the ground is too boggy'
Contractor-'Yes of course'
30 minutes later contractor has his 6 wheeler lorry stuck try to reverse back with the auger.
When I came home our 2 tractors had pulled him out. I would have insisted they phoned the local wrecker which is Ā£1000 before it turns a wheel.
 

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