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<blockquote data-quote="Grass And Grain" data-source="post: 8202206" data-attributes="member: 23184"><p>See bit highlighted in bold.</p><p></p><p>I'd like to think we could do this, but competition rules come into play. Read the attached document (tff software has put the pdf link in a funny place in this post for some reason). It gives an example in France where farmers and processors were fined €16million for colluding to set beef prices.</p><p></p><p>There are rules as to what can and can't be done, yet the NFU negotiate with British Sugar to agree the beet price, so I'm not sure how they get around the competition rules. If it can be done with beet, then why not other sectors?</p><p></p><p>It like to facilitate more power to farmers to work collectively, and increase price bargaining power, but we must stay within the law. Actions such as holding back supply is illegal, so not easy to say this week we've told all farmer members to tip 20% of their milk down the drain.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, [ATTACH]1044759[/ATTACH]OPEC limit supply, so do CF fertilisers. CF only release a certain tonnage, then they pull prices until the following week, and on Monday the price is up £20.</p><p></p><p>Funny old world being a farmer. When we buy fert or a new tractor, the <strong>seller</strong> tells <strong>us</strong> the price, but when we sell grain or livestock, the <strong>buyer</strong> tells <strong>us</strong> the price. Why?</p><p></p><p>Why aren't we going to the processor and saying we've 3 bulls to sell and we want £3.30/kg?manufacturers often provide a recommended retail price to the retailer (although I think it is maybe illegal for them to specify a minimum retail price).</p><p></p><p>Suppose problem with commodities is if we ring up ABP and say we want £3.30/kg for our bulls, they just say I am getting plenty for £2.80 thanks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grass And Grain, post: 8202206, member: 23184"] See bit highlighted in bold. I'd like to think we could do this, but competition rules come into play. Read the attached document (tff software has put the pdf link in a funny place in this post for some reason). It gives an example in France where farmers and processors were fined €16million for colluding to set beef prices. There are rules as to what can and can't be done, yet the NFU negotiate with British Sugar to agree the beet price, so I'm not sure how they get around the competition rules. If it can be done with beet, then why not other sectors? It like to facilitate more power to farmers to work collectively, and increase price bargaining power, but we must stay within the law. Actions such as holding back supply is illegal, so not easy to say this week we've told all farmer members to tip 20% of their milk down the drain. Meanwhile, [ATTACH]1044759[/ATTACH]OPEC limit supply, so do CF fertilisers. CF only release a certain tonnage, then they pull prices until the following week, and on Monday the price is up £20. Funny old world being a farmer. When we buy fert or a new tractor, the [B]seller[/B] tells [B]us[/B] the price, but when we sell grain or livestock, the [B]buyer[/B] tells [B]us[/B] the price. Why? Why aren't we going to the processor and saying we've 3 bulls to sell and we want £3.30/kg?manufacturers often provide a recommended retail price to the retailer (although I think it is maybe illegal for them to specify a minimum retail price). Suppose problem with commodities is if we ring up ABP and say we want £3.30/kg for our bulls, they just say I am getting plenty for £2.80 thanks. [/QUOTE]
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