Options after roundup

[Low ground pressure]

Not bad at creating stale seedbeds, though mine only goes 1/2" deep each time. Not great at killing the plants as the tine spacing means incomplete coverage. You'd need multiple passes which would have some effect. A light set of discs would be better IMO.

Thank you. Yours is a claydon isnt it?

 

[Adeptandy]

Not bad at creating stale seedbeds, though mine only goes 1/2" deep each time. Not great at killing the plants as the tine spacing means incomplete coverage. You'd need multiple passes which would have some effect. A light set of discs would be better IMO.

Thats been my approach, short discs and a few passes as required. Hardly use Glysophate nowadays, but still don't want to see it banned.

 

[Brisel]

Thank you. Yours is a claydon isnt it?

Yes. I run a 15m one, so slower but at twice the width of a mounted one you can still cover a lot of ground in a day.

 

[Banana Bar]

How does a Carrier compare to a rake?

 

[Low ground pressure]

I have tried a few different methods of light cultivation this time to get a chit and create a small amount of tilth and a shallow pass with a power harrow has seemed be to best. I know it is slower than a rake or carrier but depth control is excellent

 

[Adeptandy]

I have tried a few different methods of light cultivation this time to get a chit and create a small amount of tilth and a shallow pass with a power harrow has seemed be to best. I know it is slower than a rake or carrier but depth control is excellent

Leveling boards down or up to let material pass through ?

 

[Low ground pressure]

Leveling board up, then potentially rake every 10 days or so to kill volunteers and ecourage more to grow. This is how i see the answer to the op at the moment.

 

[Brisel]

How does a Carrier compare to a rake?

In what way? A rake is mostly for spreading straw and other residues with the side benefit of a shallow scratch. A Carrier rolls over residues but can work a lot deeper. I haven't seen the optional front harrow at work on a Carrier. All the ones I've seen are in the nettles, having been removed.

 

[Brisel]

I have tried a few different methods of light cultivation this time to get a chit and create a small amount of tilth and a shallow pass with a power harrow has seemed be to best. I know it is slower than a rake or carrier but depth control is excellent

You'd need it to be dry to avoid smearing with the tines. Do you run the bed in high gear to speed the job up?

 

[Low ground pressure]

Smearing doesn't seem to be a problem. No just have it running in normal gear and tractor about 1700 revs, doesnt use a crazy amount of fuel. Just slower than the other options.

 

[charlie@horizon]

If you're looking to move more soil than a straw harrow but less soil than a shallow disc...... The Claydon Terrastar is a cracking tool.

 

[Breakthru]

Glypho ban = more use of gas burner technology as per potato haulm dessication. That ought to please the flip flop wearers, not!
That type of tech married with targeting possibly even using lasers is what will take over from glypho IMHO.

 

[DrWazzock]

For me, I am already planning to reduce glyphosate useage. We have cranesbill here which now needs 6 litres to kill it. That's insane in my view. Chasing it round with a stubble cultivator in anything but a drought wont kill it either. There is only one answer to it. Plough it down late so the next flush doesn't have time to get too big then kill that next flush with predrilling cultivations. Then fairly cheap chemistry such a Ally will keep the crop clean.

Direct drilling is still an opportunistic tool in the box but nature has already found its weaknesses. It's no long term panacea.

 

[SilliamWhale]

For me, I am already planning to reduce glyphosate useage. We have cranesbill here which now needs 6 litres to kill it. That's insane in my view. Chasing it round with a stubble cultivator in anything but a drought wont kill it either. There is only one answer to it. Plough it down late so the next flush doesn't have time to get too big then kill that next flush with predrilling cultivations. Then fairly cheap chemistry such a Ally will keep the crop clean.

Direct drilling is still an opportunistic tool in the box but nature has already found its weaknesses. It's no long term panacea.

Use another chemical to kill the cranesbill. Don't blame glyphosate - its not necessarily strong on certain broadleaves.

 

[Brisel]

Full rate Kyleo kills cranesbill. The 2,4 D does it. Metsulfuron does it in a growing cereal and HBN burns it off.

 

[Simon C]

For me, I am already planning to reduce glyphosate useage. We have cranesbill here which now needs 6 litres to kill it. That's insane in my view. Chasing it round with a stubble cultivator in anything but a drought wont kill it either. There is only one answer to it. Plough it down late so the next flush doesn't have time to get too big then kill that next flush with predrilling cultivations. Then fairly cheap chemistry such a Ally will keep the crop clean.

Direct drilling is still an opportunistic tool in the box but nature has already found its weaknesses. It's no long term panacea.

Bung some Shark in with the glyphosate at one tenth of the rate.

Kills cranesbill every time, 100%

 

[Brisel]

Shark has a 1 month drilling interval on the label.

 

[farmerfred86]

It’s only a matter of time now there banning it in Europe and they’ll never take our products if we still use it

Why not... we're importing neo-nic treated OSR without trouble!

 

[Brisel]

Why not... we're importing neo-nic treated OSR without trouble!

Are EU importing it though? Edit: Yes, They are only 2/3 self sufficient in oilseeds.

https://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/sites/agriculture/files/cereals/presentations/cereals-oilseeds/market-situation-oilseeds_en.pdf

 

[mikep]

For me, I am already planning to reduce glyphosate useage. We have cranesbill here which now needs 6 litres to kill it. That's insane in my view. Chasing it round with a stubble cultivator in anything but a drought wont kill it either. There is only one answer to it. Plough it down late so the next flush doesn't have time to get too big then kill that next flush with predrilling cultivations. Then fairly cheap chemistry such a Ally will keep the crop clean.

Direct drilling is still an opportunistic tool in the box but nature has already found its weaknesses. It's no long term panacea.

Try some MCPA, cheap as chips and does lots of other difficut weeds like Willow herb and has some effect on grass weeds. Reps wont reccomend it as its so cheap.