Organic cereals

Martyn

Member
Location
South west
Ok so our landlord has just put up a new grain store/machinery shed, just waiting for roller door to be fitted.
We currently grow grain to crimp and feed our own stock but with operating a mixed system we seam to achieve very pleasing organic yeilds.
Is it worth becoming farm assured to sell grain, let's say 30-60t of barley? Has anyone links to future pricing for organics? Our dairy cows are not turning much profit on very poor organic milk price while cull prices are high, so could drop herd numbers back and out in an extra 30 acres of cereals.
We have all our own kit, only ever done dried corn for our following seasons seed, but usually get it 13/14% and stores ok so guess the same for dried cereals.
 

Flat 10

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
Can you not sell it to another organic stock farm? Assurance is going to be a massive ball ache for little reward otherwise. I’m surprised that you need to be FA as well as organic certified TBH.
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
Ok so our landlord has just put up a new grain store/machinery shed, just waiting for roller door to be fitted.
We currently grow grain to crimp and feed our own stock but with operating a mixed system we seam to achieve very pleasing organic yeilds.
Is it worth becoming farm assured to sell grain, let's say 30-60t of barley? Has anyone links to future pricing for organics? Our dairy cows are not turning much profit on very poor organic milk price while cull prices are high, so could drop herd numbers back and out in an extra 30 acres of cereals.
We have all our own kit, only ever done dried corn for our following seasons seed, but usually get it 13/14% and stores ok so guess the same for dried cereals.
If your SA certified get it added onto your Trading Schedule. I even had to have organic straw listed to be able to sell to another organic farmer even though organic grain was already on it.
Organic cereal prices are a dark art, I can find an organic milk price in minutes, same for beef and lamb, cereals I can tell you what the market was paying 2-3 months ago but nothing recent which is certainly annoying when selling soon after combining like I do - I sell direct to organic dairy farmers, I don’t produce enough to sell to a mill or malster and I know their crooked enough to deal with with conventional produce!
 

Martyn

Member
Location
South west
If your SA certified get it added onto your Trading Schedule. I even had to have organic straw listed to be able to sell to another organic farmer even though organic grain was already on it.
Organic cereal prices are a dark art, I can find an organic milk price in minutes, same for beef and lamb, cereals I can tell you what the market was paying 2-3 months ago but nothing recent which is certainly annoying when selling soon after combining like I do - I sell direct to organic dairy farmers, I don’t produce enough to sell to a mill or malster and I know their crooked enough to deal with with conventional produce!
On my schedule as cereal already so hopefully that's ok.
 
Ok so our landlord has just put up a new grain store/machinery shed, just waiting for roller door to be fitted.
We currently grow grain to crimp and feed our own stock but with operating a mixed system we seam to achieve very pleasing organic yeilds.
Is it worth becoming farm assured to sell grain, let's say 30-60t of barley? Has anyone links to future pricing for organics? Our dairy cows are not turning much profit on very poor organic milk price while cull prices are high, so could drop herd numbers back and out in an extra 30 acres of cereals.
We have all our own kit, only ever done dried corn for our following seasons seed, but usually get it 13/14% and stores ok so guess the same for dried cereals.
i wish i had your landlord!,all i get out of mine is excuses and lies😠
 

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