Organic foul treatment

[Farmer Keith]

Treated a 1st lactation heifer for foul with betamoxLA yesterday and I’ve been wondering since how would an organic farmer treat foul? Is there a lesson to be learned from you guys.

 

[More to life]

Treated a 1st lactation heifer for foul with betamoxLA yesterday and I’ve been wondering since how would an organic farmer treat foul? Is there a lesson to be learned from you guys.

Using anything other than antibiotics would be a welfare issue ?

 

[farmboy]

Justifiable antibiotics

 

[Sid]

Treated a 1st lactation heifer for foul with betamoxLA yesterday and I’ve been wondering since how would an organic farmer treat foul? Is there a lesson to be learned from you guys.

Could be, but then you could infringe on my market?
Volume washer twice daily, copious amounts of iodine in a small garden sprayer and metacam if needed.

Catch them early too

 

[More to life]

Could be, but then you could infringe on my market?
Volume washer twice daily, copious amounts of iodine in a small garden sprayer and metacam if needed.

Catch them early too

Is that prevention or treatment?

 

[Farmer Keith]

Using anything other than antibiotics would be a welfare issue ?

You’d think so but I’m just interested to know, I was under the impression some organic contracts are heading AB free so assuming there’s a plan. Obviously good preventative measures are great but there’ll always be an odd one.

 

[Dead Rabbits]

What is foul?

 

[Sid]

What is foul?

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[Spudley]

Not organic but I have had decent results with blue spray daily on a clean foot. Can PWAB farms use blue spray??

 

[Sid]

Not organic but I have had decent results with blue spray daily on a clean foot. Can PWAB farms use blue spray??

No

 

[jerseycowsman]

Treated a 1st lactation heifer for foul with betamoxLA yesterday and I’ve been wondering since how would an organic farmer treat foul? Is there a lesson to be learned from you guys.

What’s wrong with using antibiotics, the cow is sick and they work. Why is antibiotics becoming a swear word?
Humans use 275 mg per kg of live weight a year, livestock use less than 100. I don’t think antibiotics use on livestock is causing the resistance issue

 

[Farmer Keith]

What’s wrong with using antibiotics, the cow is sick and they work. Why is antibiotics becoming a swear word?
Humans use 275 mg per kg of live weight a year, livestock use less than 100. I don’t think antibiotics use on livestock is causing the resistance issue

Nothing at all as far as I’m concerned, the human issue is a far greater one. I was just interested in a different way with no milk withdrawal that’s all.

It would need have a decent success rate though as two mornings later said cow is fully weight bearing and you’d not be able to pick her out as being lame two days ago if you didn’t know.

 

[Dead Rabbits]

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Ah, foot rot

 

[organicguy]

The key to not using antibiotics is rapid treatment.
We get a problem when we get sticky clay and small stones on tracks or hedge cuttings.
If the foot is lifted , cleaned of the offending item, and treated with a copper sulphate paste or similar within 24 hours we have a 90% success rate with no AB.
ABs are easy and save time and effort!

 

[Farm buy]

The key to not using antibiotics is rapid treatment.
We get a problem when we get sticky clay and small stones on tracks or hedge cuttings.
If the foot is lifted , cleaned of the offending item, and treated with a copper sulphate paste or similar within 24 hours we have a 90% success rate with no AB.
ABs are easy and save time and effort!

We have used the exact same process on the cows with similar results , We make up a 2lb jar of bluestone dilute (as my dad calls it) copper sulfate is more correct term,lift the leg, clean , pour and go.

 

[organicguy]

We have used the exact same process on the cows with similar results , We make up a 2lb jar of bluestone dilute (as my dad calls it) copper sulfate is more correct term,lift the leg, clean , pour and go.

I have ground up CuSO4 and made a paste with vaseline or just use a bought hoof gel or paste. I think timing is the key, not what you treat with.

 

[lazy farmer]

I have ground up CuSO4 and made a paste with vaseline or just use a bought hoof gel or paste. I think timing is the key, not what you treat with.

Are you wrapping the foot ?Do they fall off after a short while or are you removing?

 

[organicguy]

No, clean and just smear sticky stuff up into the cleft.

OG

 

[multi power]

Using anything other than antibiotics would be a welfare issue ?

No