Osr chancer in then
- Thread starter warksfarmer
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- Yorks
Does anyone think previous herbicide (eg. Dff) could be causing a problem with the dd'd. Not enough soil movement to break the chemical layer?
It needs N under it to zerotill it and get consistent results - waste of time without
Without doubt the hardest crop to zerotill but feel we have finally cracked it with our CO ULD conversion
Warp Land Farmer
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- Hazzard County
Liquid fert - Do you have to put it under the seed or is on top of the drill row enough (after a press wheel)?
warksfarmer
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Put 30kg of N on today to see if it makes a difference. That's the last input though now as enough is enough. No more pellets or fert so if there's a crop in December we'll kerb it as the BG is coming through fast now. Total spend so far with all inputs, machinery labour etc is £26.73/acre.
The good thing about the no till though is we can travel without any issues after the 120mm of rain we've had in September you could hardly see where the sprayers been.
The good thing about the no till though is we can travel without any issues after the 120mm of rain we've had in September you could hardly see where the sprayers been.
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- Bedfordshire
How are you getting on with the sprayer, iirc you went from a Bateman to trailed?? I'm planning the same in the future, chopping out an old 2500lt 24m SP to a 3/4/5000lts 30m trailed, never used one before, been SP for the last 23 years but moving to a new position in the new year where I have to pay the bills and all machinery needs updating.
Feldspar
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- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
I think we ought to start a thread to discuss this. Don't think it's been done before.
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- Bedfordshire
Has it not? Will you join in if I start a thread?I think we ought to start a thread to discuss this. Don't think it's been done before.
not temped to take out the volunteers ?
I'm just under £40 in now on mine but its had pre em herbicide and graminicide and looking well set up now
Feldspar
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- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
Yes, but I won't post much as I am not an overly verbose person.
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- Bedfordshire
What are your thoughts on the SP vs trailed debate then
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- Darlington
Feldspar
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- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
warksfarmer
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Can't see the point really as it's food for the slugs. It's mainly barley volunteers where the ground was lightly moved due to the flat crop at harvest. The no tilled stuff is still quite clean so I think we can wait till December before doing anything. I'm hoping the kerb will be the only herbicide used.
as long as they don't get away i guess but IME they can soon get on top of the OSR and steal all the N - also its a bit of a missed chance to sort some grass weeds ?
warksfarmer
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No downsides and it's making better use of a tractor. Travels as well as the Bateman on the same width tyres. It's more comfortable and doesn't have hydrostatic wheel motors. Reversing it takes a bit of getting used to and it's not as 'nippy' in the field but with the bigger tank (1000 litres extra) work rate has remained the same as the Bateman.
You need to plan the fields a bit more though to minimise 360 turns on pikes and you have to get used to turning into the tramlines earlier, so smoother longer turns rather than the short sharp ones with a SP.
I'm not keen on the Muller control box but that's nothing to do with the trailed concept. Far to many stupid menus to get the sprayer to do anything for my liking. Agleader is a 1000 times better so I might change the Muller yet as it's not good although I'm probably not used to it yet as we had a loan machine with a Teejet which was great until recently so the Muller is new to me.
warksfarmer
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There's not enough grass weeds through yet as it was glyphosated prior to drilling. Then drilled in early September so it's only 25 days old at the minute. We'd need at least another month to see any benefit from a herbicide and as the crop establishment hasn't been brilliant a herbicide could well be a waste of money at the minute. I didn't want to put any pellets on let alone 30kg of N so a herbicide is not a priority. At £26/ac I'm not bothered if it fails or not.
warksfarmer
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See first 2 pictures but we’ve got a good stand of crop to literally nothing within a few metres. This was no tilled into wheat stubble straw removed. We’ve lost crop to both slugs and flea beetle. Seed rate 15kg/ha off the heap.
Picture 3 shows some broadcast from the slug pelleter on 1ha of chopped wheat stubble 10 days after the other was drilled. Seed rate was 25kg/ha off the heap. Then rolled.
Looking at this for next year I think if we grow this horrible weed of a crop it’ll be 25kg/ha broadcast with a fert spinner and rolled in.
Picture 3 shows some broadcast from the slug pelleter on 1ha of chopped wheat stubble 10 days after the other was drilled. Seed rate was 25kg/ha off the heap. Then rolled.
Looking at this for next year I think if we grow this horrible weed of a crop it’ll be 25kg/ha broadcast with a fert spinner and rolled in.
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