Other industries and footpaths

[unlacedgecko]

I often see it written here that other industries don't have to tolerate public access/you wouldn't have a foot path through a factory.

So I thought this was interesting.

A multimillion pound cold store and distribution center with a public footpath right through the middle. Since the satellite image was taken the new shed to the east of the path has been completed.

A zebra crossing showing the interaction of pedestrians and arctic trucks.

And no subsidy for the distribution center.

 

[milkloss]

I have a feeling they're working with a different budget and potential earnings than most farms though. Can't see many camping out for a picnic either!

 

[fieldfarmer]

I have a feeling they're working with a different budget and potential earnings than most farms though. Can't see many camping out for a picnic either!

Or throwing a ball in to the factory for their dog to fetch!

 

[Sid]

Wonders what would happen if they wandered off the path?

 

[unlacedgecko]

Wonders what would happen if they wandered off the path?

Apart from the crossing point it's fully fenced. 3m wide path.

 

[7610 super q]

I concur. Industrial fencing is the answer.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

 

[Fendt516profi]

Apart from the crossing point it's fully fenced. 3m wide path.

So basically its just like any other pavement in front of a factory/warehouse that is at both sides of entrance

 

[Y Fan Wen]

There is the same thing in Chester Zoo. To get from one side of the zoo to the other you use a pedestrian and vehicle bridge. The public fp goes underneath.

 

[Goweresque]

Thats hardly comparable is it? You'd need to find a footpath that went straight through a factory floor or warehouse, so that walkers could just wander between all the machinery and workers at will.

And what do you think would be the response of government if farmers started fencing every footpath like that, with 2m steel fencing either side of it? Do you think they'd just let it happen, or would they legislate to stop it?

 

[unlacedgecko]

So basically its just like any other pavement in front of a factory/warehouse that is at both sides of entrance

No, it's a public footpath which runs straight through the centre of the site. ,

 

[unlacedgecko]

Thats hardly comparable is it? You'd need to find a footpath that went straight through a factory floor or warehouse, so that walkers could just wander between all the machinery and workers at will.

And what do you think would be the response of government if farmers started fencing every footpath like that, with 2m steel fencing either side of it? Do you think they'd just let it happen, or would they legislate to stop it?

Try it and see? I remember walking a farm near Harper that had all the footpaths fully fenced

 

[Fendt516profi]

Thats hardly comparable is it? You'd need to find a footpath that went straight through a factory floor or warehouse, so that walkers could just wander between all the machinery and workers at will.

And what do you think would be the response of government if farmers started fencing every footpath like that, with 2m steel fencing either side of it? Do you think they'd just let it happen, or would they legislate to stop it?

2m? Wants to be at least 3m and a roof on to stop them climbing out

 

[unlacedgecko]

2m? Wants to be at least 3m and a roof on to stop them climbing out

Like a baboon enclosure

 

[Goweresque]

Try it and see? I remember walking a farm near Harper that had all the footpaths fully fenced

The odd one can get away with it, my point was what would happen if we all did it. I think we'd be stopped pretty sharpish.

 

[hally]

I concur. Industrial fencing is the answer.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

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This is the only thing some of them understand.
Spoke to a guy in amongst my sheep this morning with 5 red setters running loose. He was adamant they were under control and to be fair they were along side him but agreed to put them on a lead next time in my sheep.......so there are occasional sensible ones.

 

[unlacedgecko]

The odd one can get away with it, my point was what would happen if we all did it. I think we'd be stopped pretty sharpish.

I've a lease block with the foot paths fully fenced. Why would farmers be stopped from protecting the public by fencing cattle off footpaths?

 

[hally]

2m? Wants to be at least 3m and a roof on to stop them climbing out

I've a lease block with the foot paths fully fenced. Why would farmers be stopped from protecting the public by fencing cattle off footpaths?

Ramblers are vehemently against it. Local farm up the wall from here had a guy killed by a cow, so naturally wanted all the footpaths fenced off but is getting nowhere with the Roman wall and ramblers. We fenced some of our wall path off a few years ago because of an incident but they would not let us fence off some key parts of the route so the ramblers come on board with that. So we took off cows on that section and had natural England contact us worried about the decline in the suckler herd in the area......you couldn’t make it up. We are pretty much resigned to the fact cows are finished here within the next few years or the next major incident that happens, luckily I am at an age to not be too bothered and the next generation doesn’t want to farm....thank god.
4 more cow dispersals at Hexham next week!!!!

 

[7610 super q]

I see no difference between a farmyard, and an industrial estate. Lottery money will be spent here trying to get my FP diverted round the back of the buildings. If that fails.....ugly fencing it is.
Folks are sh!t hot on elf and safety on this forum, yet FP's through farmyards don't register on the list.

 

[hally]

I see no difference between a farmyard, and an industrial estate. Lottery money will be spent here trying to get my FP diverted round the back of the buildings. If that fails.....ugly fencing it is.
Folks are sh!t hot on elf and safety on this forum, yet FP's through farmyards don't register on the list.

Classic example here yesterday, path through the middle of our yard. I was moving a Freshly calved limmy cow from the calving shed into a straw shed just until this wet weather passes then she will go out. Opened the door but had a bit of a job getting her to go out as she was very protective and calf wouldn’t follow, before I got her out 30 people all ages walked right through the yard past the open door, luckily she hadn’t gone out so shut door and waited for them all the clear the yard. Two minute later a gang of middle class wan*ers on mountain bikes hurtled through the yard no respect for kids, livestock or anything else in there way, if they hadn’t vanished quickly a heated discussion on the merits of driving through my home at that speed would have ensued

 

[7610 super q]

Classic example here yesterday, path through the middle of our yard. I was moving a Freshly calved limmy cow from the calving shed into a straw shed just until this wet weather passes then she will go out. Opened the door but had a bit of a job getting her to go out as she was very protective and calf wouldn’t follow, before I got her out 30 people all ages walked right through the yard past the open door, luckily she hadn’t gone out so shut door and waited for them all the clear the yard. Two minute later a gang of middle class wan*ers on mountain bikes hurtled through the yard no respect for kids, livestock or anything else in there way, if they hadn’t vanished quickly a heated discussion on the merits of driving through my home at that speed would have ensued

My path isn't that well used, nor is it stuck to, which means folks can appear unexpectedly, and in odd places. Vision from tractors is OK, but I've had a few close calls with the Manitou catching sight of numpties in the mirror. I've got to get into the mindset of looking out for them constantly. Easier said than done. The new generation of ramblists don't seem to take much notice of their surroundings. Head down ( or burried in a map ) stomping along at 6 mph.........
Signs are a waste of time. Painting yellow pedestrian lines on mud and hardcore is a non starter. Diversion or fencing has to be the way forward.