otter proof gates

[tomlad]

any one any experience of making the above ?

my fishery will be fully fenced soon so gonna need gates ...

photos would be great
contractor used tornado wire

 

[trev7530]

Can't you buy them, think tornado wire do them.

 

[Post Driver]

I'm not so sure you can get them. You want a maximum if 50mm gap between gate and posts and the sleeper dug in to ground level.

 

[ARW]

We wired the gate, it was a bugger to do an make sure all holes were sealed

 

[tomlad]

Contractors getting a quote
Were thinking box frame square mesh then galvanised
Still needs the top crank ?
I've seen some that were sheet galvanised tin so no crank
Were planning a 300 wide concrete strip at bottom .

 

[Post Driver]

I guess if you rivet some tin sheet to the gate that would stop them climbing. If I was erecting for a client I would err on the side of caution and fit cranks and net to be sure there was no weak spots.

Put some pictures up of the finished job, sad cases like me enjoy looking at tidy fencing

 

[Hilly]

Out of interest do otters kill fish for fun or just enough to live ? seen one the otherday on the river bank eating a fish, personally id rather see that than a fisherman lol

 

[Post Driver]

Out of interest do otters kill fish for fun or just enough to live ? seen one the otherday on the river bank eating a fish, personally id rather see that than a fisherman lol

I don't know about for fun, but they don't eat much of the fish, mainly around the Gill area.

 

[tomlad]

Out of interest do otters kill fish for fun or just enough to live ? seen one the otherday on the river bank eating a fish, personally id rather see that than a fisherman lol

its a very technical / controversial subject
as a simple example if a otter, took a 20 ld carp worth £1000 - £1500 to replace , it would eat about 8 oz to 1 ld of meat , around the gill area as correctly stated .it will then get bored and go get another .
so if that's going on all winter its a serious problem
they are about the most protected thing there is
they are cute and furry
the large populations we have now have been breed in captivity in 'otter sanctuaries ' then released into nice looking places , generally close to a commercial fishery .
they are yet to find my fishery so that's why I'm gonna protect it before, which is the advice of the E A
the commercial course fishery business is worth millions a year , it is now under serious threat .
simple question why did they hunt them with otter hounds ' back in the day '
google otter predation , otter kills etc
there are no grants to fence
have a look at otter stops website


i'll photo what's already done if the weather improves captain , got three sides done in the spring , 600 meter , prepping the last 200 ish now then I should be safe.

 

[Hilly]

its a very technical / controversial subject
as a simple example if a otter, took a 20 ld carp worth £1000 - £1500 to replace , it would eat about 8 oz to 1 ld of meat , around the gill area as correctly stated .it will then get bored and go get another .
so if that's going on all winter its a serious problem
they are about the most protected thing there is
they are cute and furry
the large populations we have now have been breed in captivity in 'otter sanctuaries ' then released into nice looking places , generally close to a commercial fishery .
they are yet to find my fishery so that's why I'm gonna protect it before, which is the advice of the E A
the commercial course fishery business is worth millions a year , it is now under serious threat .
simple question why did they hunt them with otter hounds ' back in the day '
google otter predation , otter kills etc
there are no grants to fence
have a look at otter stops website


i'll photo what's already done if the weather improves captain , got three sides done in the spring , 600 meter , prepping the last 200 ish now then I should be safe.

I know nothing about fish, how dose a 20 yearold carp become worth over 1k ?

 

[tomlad]

Who said that it was over 20 year old
20 pound plus in weight

Try and buy a legitimate one for less
There value will be increasing because they will be getting harder to come by.

 

[Dr. Alkathene]

I know nothing about fish, how dose a 20 yearold carp become worth over 1k ?

http://www.combleycarpfisheries.co.uk/carp-for-sale/carp-price-list/


http://www.whitewaterfisheries.com/big-carp-for-sale/

http://www.lowerberryfieldfisheries.co.uk/prices.html

Is / will this fishery be open to members of the public?

 

[tomlad]

Those prices are competitive
I've only ever bought fish of one guy because I trust him he asks more .
It's the threat of importing disease. ...........

Sorry are you asking me if my fishery is open to the public ?
It is , it is not members only.

 

[tomlad]

got some entrance gates fitted now
original plan was to concrete the still under the gate when closed , needs to be close fitting 20- 30 mm clearance so nowt can crawl under .
a mates suggested using a steel across , prob a I section , flat on top , set level with road , main entrance so has to take any traffic ..

150 x 100 steel ? or much heavier concreted in and three 900 ish strip welded underneath in direction of travel to stop it rocking
is cost gonna be similar to 2 ish cube of concrete ??
3 gates to do .
dose this make sence or am I talking nonsense
gates 2 15 ft one 12
tia tom

 

[Landy Nick]

Just had a local fishery near me that has just recently been fenced off to deter otters. There's several gates around this fishery, can't recall of any concrete being used.
Will be going over within the next few days. I take a few Piccys and put up here.

 

[Pond digger]

I don't know about for fun, but they don't eat much of the fish, mainly around the Gill area.

And they won't return to the kill the next night, they'll go catch another instead.

What an intelligent idea it was to go captive breeding and releasing otters, at a time when their naturally favoured dinner- eels, have had a serious population crash. The thick b******s.

 

[Pond digger]

And there was no consultation with the fishing industry- the poor sods who's businesses are being devastated.

 

[tomlad]

very very true @Pond digger would not be so bad if the tree huggers were gonna pay for the fencing
wonder what the cost is nationally for every fishery to be fenced

 

[Exfarmer]

Out of interest do otters kill fish for fun or just enough to live ? seen one the otherday on the river bank eating a fish, personally id rather see that than a fisherman lol

Found one otter at the bottom of my garden feasting on a 3/4 grown Swan, he was unphased by me so probably a release. He ate a little bit of the breast and then skipped off. Strangely we rarely see swans now.

 

[tomlad]

Apex predator