Overhead FTTP

[Y Fan Wen]

There has been talk of fibre coming to the cwm for about 18 months now. One OR engineer told me policy is to provide FTTP everywhere from now on. The little green boxes you see on some poles are now old tech.. Today I spoke to an OR contractor who wished permission to add a couple of extra poles and said that he has small contracts all the way up the cwm, hence upgrading the route..
Looking at the map it means 5 miles of line, which, with spurs, will need 10 miles I guess and servicing roughly 35 properties.
Has anyone else been through this process already? I was wondering, will the fibre be strung in parallel with the old copper or will it replace it? If it does replace the old copper, will there be new copper as well as fibre in the cable or does the fibre do instead of the copper?
Exciting times ahead!
NB 23 ping, 2.78 down and 1.13 up.

 

[Farma Parma]

i'll let you know if i mind on as local independant IT firm is installing full fibre to places near here inc farms & some of the cables are going to run on BT poles that carry the current copper wires
how they have got permission to just use them ive no idea, but they have also mole ploughed a fair bit across farmland so save money etc etc
Should have local stuff going by dec so i hear. its the full 1GB link aswell to everyone

 

[Farma Parma]

The firm have bought several rolls of 10KM of heavy fibre cabling dunno how many strands of fibre on on these cables but id assume easily 100 poss 200

 

[upnortheast]

Fttp scheme here last year.
Havn`t got it clear in my head how it works, one of the contractors was saying some big numbers regarding the cable capacity
Fibre cable was hung on the existing poles. In some places they put extra poles in to reduce the span.
I`m told the long term aim is to do away with copper. Our copper is redundant now as the phone lines are on VOIP . So 1 fttp line is carrying 3 phone lines & a 300 mbps broadband service

 

[Farma Parma]

Fttp scheme here last year.
Havn`t got it clear in my head how it works, one of the contractors was saying some big numbers regarding the cable capacity
Fibre cable was hung on the existing poles. In some places they put extra poles in to reduce the span.
I`m told the long term aim is to do away with copper. Our copper is redundant now as the phone lines are on VOIP . So 1 fttp line is carrying 3 phone lines & a 300 mbps broadband service

the whole of the country one day will all be fibre cables
but thats possibly gonna take a generation to get too.
I read over a year ago somewhere if you ordered a new phone line after 2022 it had to be a Fibre line as copper was being phased out

 

[Farma Parma]

Summary of UK FTTP Broadband Build Progress by ISPs UPDATE320

A couple of years ago we published a 'Summary of FTTP Rollout Plans' and since then many more alternative network (altnet) ISPs have entered the UK market. As

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[Courier]

How does overhead fibre stand up to "stray" shot during the shooting season ...Past experience with overhead insulated metal was that stray shot could nick the outer and then the signal carrier wire would deteriorate over a few months. which is why BT in the past supplied ducting for 5 pair cable and we dug it in ourselves ....

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Fttp scheme here last year.
Havn`t got it clear in my head how it works, one of the contractors was saying some big numbers regarding the cable capacity
Fibre cable was hung on the existing poles. In some places they put extra poles in to reduce the span.
I`m told the long term aim is to do away with copper. Our copper is redundant now as the phone lines are on VOIP . So 1 fttp line is carrying 3 phone lines & a 300 mbps broadband service

I think 30 channels per fibre is easily done. I suppose reducing the span is the reason for the extra poles being put in here and there. Interesting that the copper is redundant. Are the old coppers still there?

 

[steveR]

How does overhead fibre stand up to "stray" shot during the shooting season ...Past experience with overhead insulated metal was that stray shot could nick the outer and then the signal carrier wire would deteriorate over a few months. which is why BT in the past supplied ducting for 5 pair cable and we dug it in ourselves ....

Same here. But I used armoured. In hindsight, it's a pity it wasnt ducted...

 

[steveR]

how they have got permission to just use them ive no idea, but they have also mole ploughed a fair bit across farmland so save money etc etc
Should have local stuff going by dec so i hear. its the full 1GB link aswell to everyone

Hope that mole is nice and deep...

Good news on the way though...

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Should have local stuff going by dec so i hear. its the full 1GB link as well to everyone

Another question for those already fttp. I believe there are different subscription rates for different speeds. How do these different speeds work out in practise as in enabling you to do things?

 

[SamN]

I have FTTP, installed July 19. £31.99/m, 30mb download. Has been faultless.

They couldn't put the fibre and copper beside each other on the poles for the last stretch, due to the condition of the poles, so they fitted a hybrid wire which has the copper and fibre in one cable. It splits when it gets to the side of the house.

 

[upnortheast]

That is the standard "drop wire" from the pole with dome top black connection box on it to the house wall.

Another question for those already fttp. I believe there are different subscription rates for different speeds. How do these different speeds work out in practise as in enabling you to do things?

We went for the 300 Mbps because we wanted 1 service to cover 2 offices & 2 houses, Inc 5 kids. 3 phone lines,4 if you include the robot alarm. It's very quick, regardless of how many devices are active. Never see the buffering thing now.

 

[DKnD]

Fttp here. Don't get your hopes too high, BT are useless cxnts. Openreach are useless cxnts. If I was Hitler I would of aimed for British telecom not Poland.
On a brighter note it does work. But yeah, its been strung all along existing poles. Some of it hangs down like your grannys nickers

 

[Y Fan Wen]

That is the standard "drop wire" from the pole with dome top black connection box on it to the house wall.

We went for the 300 Mbps because we wanted 1 service to cover 2 offices & 2 houses, Inc 5 kids. 3 phone lines,4 if you include the robot alarm. It's very quick, regardless of how many devices are active. Never see the buffering thing now.

How much does one pay for multiple phone lines?

 

[upnortheast]

VOIP think it`s £20 / month + vat for 4 numbers inclusive of call charges
We use a company called Boxx.
Numbers are transfered from BT to Boxx, same way you do if moving mobile network
Needs snazzy new VOIP phones or analogue phones can still be used with an analogue / digital converter box

 

[bravheart]

VOIP think it`s £20 / month + vat for 4 numbers inclusive of call charges
We use a company called Boxx.
Numbers are transfered from BT to Boxx, same way you do if moving mobile network
Needs snazzy new VOIP phones or analogue phones can still be used with an analogue / digital converter box

Do anybody other than bt sell voip phones that link to the bt system they want £75 a Pop or any links to a converter box.

 

[bravheart]

The annual broadband Merry go round has starte again, nearly went bt the last time but chickened out last minute, They installed poles along the roadside a few years ago now and strung a fibre line on it, afaik the copper is underground to the village then those green boxes on the poles supplied fibre to the houses through the copper connection to the house. They would never connect me because it was a business line and had to be fttp and wanted a big connection charge. They have since added extra poles on the line to the farm because the stretch was to big for fibre and now fttp is available here through them only, so looking like they’ll win this time, still seems unfair no one else can compete though.

 

[upnortheast]

Do anybody other than bt sell voip phones that link to the bt system they want £75 a Pop or any links to a converter box.

Cisco SPA112 2-Port Phone Adapter

 

[bravheart]

Cisco SPA112 2-Port Phone Adapter

Quick google, no longer made but can still be had, are they the best?