Overhead FTTP

If the duct is passable yes theyll use it. They pull in a dedicated fibre mini duct and blow the threads through that as needed.

So just the small matter of getting an ethernet cable to the phone socket in the house to have fibre the full length....

What about where the phone cable was laid from the manhole in the road outside my house to the point where it comes up out of the ground in the garage?
 

Scholsey

Member
Location
Herefordshire
Tell me something. Are old BT copper phone lines underground put in ducts or not? I mean isit much of a job to pull fibre through to replace them??

If they do use it its not mandatory, neighbour had underground copper 10-15 years ago across our fields and they've had to run fibre overhead as didnt duct the copper line :X3:
 

Timbo

Member
Location
Gods County
So just the small matter of getting an ethernet cable to the phone socket in the house to have fibre the full length....

What about where the phone cable was laid from the manhole in the road outside my house to the point where it comes up out of the ground in the garage?

Youll have fibre to the cab in all likelyhood by the sounds, and best hope the cab is under half a mile away !
 

Y Fan Wen

Member
Location
N W Snowdonia
I had occasion to go up the cwm this afternoon and I found contractors busy stringing up fibre on the poles.
For some reason they are starting at the top and working back towards the exchange.
They were complaining about the rotten weather, been raining all day here, and they were trying to work through the old village peat diggings.
Hard enough to do anything there in a dry summer, let alone a wet winter.
The 21st C approaches!
 

Northdowns Martin

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Snodland kent
I’ve enquired about fttp but told they can’t even sell me fttc being that the cabinet is so far away the promised speed wouldn’t be achievable. Obviously this is information this through broadband supplier not open reach as you can’t told direct with them. However there is fibre running overhead through the farm on telegraph poles. Local open reach engineer says there no fibre in area. Could this be a privately paid for fibre scheme? If so anyone had luck in join as a late comer?
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
I’ve enquired about fttp but told they can’t even sell me fttc being that the cabinet is so far away the promised speed wouldn’t be achievable. Obviously this is information this through broadband supplier not open reach as you can’t told direct with them. However there is fibre running overhead through the farm on telegraph poles. Local open reach engineer says there no fibre in area. Could this be a privately paid for fibre scheme? If so anyone had luck in join as a late comer?

Must be someone paying a wayleave? Mind knowing BT Openreach, maybe not...
 

harrow

Member
I’ve enquired about fttp but told they can’t even sell me fttc being that the cabinet is so far away the promised speed wouldn’t be achievable. Obviously this is information this through broadband supplier not open reach as you can’t told direct with them. However there is fibre running overhead through the farm on telegraph poles. Local open reach engineer says there no fibre in area. Could this be a privately paid for fibre scheme? If so anyone had luck in join as a late comer?

Inquire online on the BT broadband website and it will tell you what you can have.
Anything is possible but that option would cost many thousands of pounds.
 

upnortheast

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Northumberland
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However there is fibre running overhead through the farm on telegraph poles.
Just thinking outloud here -
A FTTP service needs to be connected to the network through a special connection point, I forget the proper term for it but not as simple as crimping 2 cables together
Maybe this is a "main" cable running from exchange to exchange with no installed connection point within reach of your house,
 

Y Fan Wen

Member
Location
N W Snowdonia
I had occasion to go up the cwm this afternoon and I found contractors busy stringing up fibre on the poles.
For some reason they are starting at the top and working back towards the exchange.
They were complaining about the rotten weather, been raining all day here, and they were trying to work through the old village peat diggings.
Hard enough to do anything there in a dry summer, let alone a wet winter.
The 21st C approaches!
I posted the above on Jan 13th. Later that week the contractors screwed junction boxes on poles nearest to properties and left coils of cable dangling from some poles. Now they seem to have gone away. This is all in the top half of the cwm, past a new manhole which was put in before. I'm not convinced about this manhole, it's beside the church but there is no underground works, ducting there. The underground cable comes to the surface beside the other church about 2km away.
 

upnortheast

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Things to look for on overhead cables if you are likely to be able to get FTTP

You are sorted with one of these connecting block on a pole within 100m of your house
The drop cable to your property plugs into this connector

These connector domes on poles in your area mean the cable is set up to take connections

fttp BroadbandConnector.jpg

fttp connector.jpg
 

Rookie

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincs / Notts
We've got that on the pole near our house and the cabinet is less than 50 metres up the road but how the hell is the new fibre cable going to reach my property- the phone line currently emerges out of the floor in my garage??
If you went on Fttp, then they would go overhead from the pole to your property and straight into your house and ignore your existing cable. (Mine use to go above garage but now straight into living room). You would have a box on the wall like this which the fibre cable terminates in.
Router plugs straight into this, and if you opt for voip also, then the phone does too making your old line redundant.
If you went Fttc, the fibre would terminate in green cabinet and signal would travel rest of way down your existing line (50m).
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harrow

Member
We've got that on the pole near our house and the cabinet is less than 50 metres up the road but how the hell is the new fibre cable going to reach my property- the phone line currently emerges out of the floor in my garage??

First point is can you actually have fibre optic ?
Second point or observation is it is normally delivered on overhead wires, having said that I am about 6 years retired.
Go online on the BT broadband website and see as a customer what you can order, see if fibre is an option.
 
Ah ok, sorry, there is no pole outside my house- there is an old PO manhole in the road outside the house so I presume the cable runs underground to get there and it must serve other properties further down the way from me. There is no aerial cable route into our house, it's underground and under our drive. Will they need to replace this cable to get fibre into the house?
 

harrow

Member
Ah ok, sorry, there is no pole outside my house- there is an old PO manhole in the road outside the house so I presume the cable runs underground to get there and it must serve other properties further down the way from me. There is no aerial cable route into our house, it's underground and under our drive. Will they need to replace this cable to get fibre into the house?

You might only have the option of ADSL or FTTC not everyone can have FTTP to the house :(
 

upnortheast

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Ours was overhead. The drop wire was effectively 2 wires moulded together, the fibre & a new copper. If your green cabinet is only 50 m away you should get decent speed with fttc
 

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