Overseeding drills

[sidjon]

Have a option to overseed a couple of paddocks which were poor before it turned dry and would like to give them a kick start, looking at cockfoot and plantain which have put in with a Opico airseeder in previous years, have got option of a Moore drill or a Wox, would these be better or just stick with the Opico. PH 6 and P+K are 4.

 

[hally]

Moore every time unless it is a very open sward in which case ought will work.

 

[sidjon]

Quite open sward now.

 

[ollie989898]

'Quite open', you Sir, are the master of Exmoor understatement- That wants drilling pronto, I would go with the Moore, too. Plenty of seed!

 

[Homesy]

Wox. Broadcast seeds will out yield drilled, so long as you get more rain after sowing. If no more rain forecast then drill if you must but then with the forecast supposedly being really hot by the end of the week it may be too dry to even drill.

 

[ollie989898]

Wox. Broadcast seeds will out yield drilled, so long as you get more rain after sowing. If no more rain forecast then drill if you must but then with the forecast supposedly being really hot by the end of the week it may be too dry to even drill.

Have you any evidence broadcast will out-yield drilled grass seed? I have never heard tell of that before? Drilled I would say actually establishes faster, but grass harrow and box is superior because it gets put in more shallow and the distribution of seed is better.

 

[happycows]

T sem. Robin Gabriel mole valley newsletter.

 

[hally]

Tbh any drill will handle that

 

[ollie989898]

I've seen it work well with the T Sem/Aichison but in these hard(?) conditions check it closes the slots properly, might want a roll or something afterwards.

 

[aledjones]

T sem aichinson,best drill out ther for germination,slot does not need to be closed ,

 

[Kingofgrass]

T sem aichinson,best drill out ther for germination,slot does not need to be closed ,

Vredo best drill out there by far

 

[Beef farmer]

King of grass may have a point here. But also the dearest by a country mile

 

[ollie989898]

T sem aichinson,best drill out ther for germination,slot does not need to be closed ,

If the slots aren't closed it could be slug central. I've seen it before.

 

[ploughman1963]

I've seen it work well with the T Sem/Aichison but in these hard(?) conditions check it closes the slots properly, might want a roll or something afterwards.

I beg to differ - slot needs to remain open IMHO. In those conditions I (as a Duncan drill owner) would say a disc drill would do a better job as the slot will just collapse and bury the seed.

 

[ollie989898]

I beg to differ - slot needs to remain open IMHO. In those conditions I (as a Duncan drill owner) would say a disc drill would do a better job as the slot will just collapse and bury the seed.

Slug runway if you aren't careful!

 

[ploughman1963]

Slug runway if you aren't careful!

I accept that is a risk but the whole concept of a tee boot drill is to create a chamber that is moist and humid - germination is incredibly quick in these conditions. If the slot collapses most of the seed will never make it to the surface.
We leave drilling to dry for 24 hours before rolling so that the lips dry and contract so that when rolled, they dont seal, they leave a small air gap for the seedling to emerge through.

 

[Kevtherev]

The NZ tine drills are the best for germination results without a doubt.