- Location
- Northumberland
P & K holiday
- Thread starter Fergieman
- Start date
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
Looks good!
pH looks a tad low though.
pH looks a tad low though.
ollie989898
Member
K holiday, not a P holiday.
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
K holiday except the bottom one which could do with maintainance dressing.
P I'd do maintainance. Be very careful about letting indices drop too much they take a hell of a lot to build back up again.
P I'd do maintainance. Be very careful about letting indices drop too much they take a hell of a lot to build back up again.
Princess Pooper
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- Location
- East Mids
Ouch. Wouldn't like managing my forage with those high K figures. Do you plaster the slurry / fym on?
- Location
- Northumberland
I have a field that gets no slurry or FYM for dry cow silage.
Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Might have to add a little ?
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Oh you lads on chalk make me laugh sometimes. I dream of managing to get a field up to pH 6.4, and I think it’s happened once too. I aim to try to keep everything at 6-6.5, but it’s a constant battle.
Similarly P indices of over 2 here are something to crack out the champagne over, and I suspect aren’t worth spending on achieving on a rented farm.
No holidays here though, ordered Fibrophos to go on ahead of drilling just this morning. My thinking as that it will supply a base maintenance level, with Korn Kali applied to requirements later. With supply being questionable for most products (KornKali is ‘available’ but delivery is 4weeks +, as with a lot of other products), at least Fibrophos applied now will have the job done if things get ugly.
Similarly P indices of over 2 here are something to crack out the champagne over, and I suspect aren’t worth spending on achieving on a rented farm.
No holidays here though, ordered Fibrophos to go on ahead of drilling just this morning. My thinking as that it will supply a base maintenance level, with Korn Kali applied to requirements later. With supply being questionable for most products (KornKali is ‘available’ but delivery is 4weeks +, as with a lot of other products), at least Fibrophos applied now will have the job done if things get ugly.
A ton on the 6.3 and 2 on the 6.0 and 6.1?
I would probably leave the 6.3 if I wasn't spreading on the others.
We really struggle to keep ph up here and have problems with mn, so it's a bit of a balancing act.
Mid sixes are good enough.
Durry cows
Member
- Location
- Derbyshire
Do you buy in bagged p and k or is that all from slurry/muck? We only buy nitrogen with plentiful supply of dairy muck/slurry
ollie989898
Member
Be aware that heavy silage cuts can seriously eat into K reserves.
- Location
- Devon
Lots of dairy farmers buy most of their P & K requirements in the cake lorry?
yes - i would do the 6.3 while there - aim for 6.5-6.7 - far more important than the P & K
in fact would be interesting to retest for nutrition when pH is better
Princess Pooper
Member
- Location
- East Mids
haven't bought any compound fertiliser here for over 10 years, even though we have a bit of wheat land too. We buy in feed and extra straw. All within NVZ rules. Do need to lime every now and again.
Just the terminology! ;-)
I am long familiar with the term and technique, it was what John Cherrington was describing in his books on farming in the early part of the 20C, using feedstuffs imported from the Empire, when it really was Cake that was fed!
Hindsight
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
ollie989898
Member
Anyone with a serious amount of livestock around (or a nearby AD unit) should really not need to buy in any P or K fertiliser besides paltry amounts of TSP or MOP or DAP for corrections here and there where identified during soil testing for reseeding or maize etc. Should not need a compound except for land where you can't get slurry/dung or digestate to it. Buy in nitrogen and sulphur and use that everywhere instead.
If you have no livestock but again farm nearby to a big unit or an AD unit, I bet the saving in P and K would buy you a very spangly tanker in no time at all and you would get better crops into the bargain.
If you have no livestock but again farm nearby to a big unit or an AD unit, I bet the saving in P and K would buy you a very spangly tanker in no time at all and you would get better crops into the bargain.