Suppin Diesel
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Is a packer roller like the Amazone wedge ring roller or KV cracker roller much of an advantage on a combi drill over a standard flat tooth roller?
Packer roller
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snipe
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- west yorkshire
We and a few other farmers have found on heavy land the wedge ring roller on the amazon packs it too tight and if it’s a bit damp the Coulter’s won’t go in very well. Plus they are heavy. Next time I’d go for a standard packer. On light fluffy land they might be ideal
On lighter land which is what amazone recommend the wedge ring roller for then yes.
On heavy land you can struggle to get seed into the ground behind the ring roller.
Moved back to steel packer on mine because of this.
Beat me too it @snipe
- Location
- south norfolk
I’ve got a wedgering on my combination and never had any problems even on heavy going.
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As above we tried an amazone with wedge ring and didn't go well they blamed the roller in wet shitty going but I'm not convinced the lack of coulter pressure and single bevelled disc had more to do with it in my opinion after all they haven't just came up with a double disc set up for no reason
We've had problems in really light going with our maxi packer on our Kuhn stopping turning this year where a wedge ring would've been fine first time in about 18yrs since they started making a decent diameter packer due to soil being in funny condition
It was the biggest one available at the time but they're making a bigger one now
We've had problems in really light going with our maxi packer on our Kuhn stopping turning this year where a wedge ring would've been fine first time in about 18yrs since they started making a decent diameter packer due to soil being in funny condition
It was the biggest one available at the time but they're making a bigger one now
Suppin Diesel
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We are on light to medium soils with a bit of stone in it. Though coulters would run more consistent behind a wedge ring packer.
snipe
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- west yorkshire
This best thing we have found is running a press wheel behind the Coulter’s. Have an amazone powerharrow/drill with disc Coulter’s and a horsch pronto. Pronto has a far better Coulter set up. I think that is more important than the packer
My land would be very similar to yours and I use a kv craker packer and it's excellent. I was on suffolk coulters and definately helps with better consistency and now on discs with press wheel behind and really pleased with results.
I admit it's not cheap but I would say it's worth every penny. I do have a hatred for packer rollers and setting scrapers! Although I have never experienced the bigger modern packers which will be far better than small diameter ones I had on old rau rototillers. The cracker packer makes a great job and is hassle free and would totally recommend it.
wold-topper
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- Yorkshire Wolds
We run an Amazone with wedge ring packer, makes a nice job on wold land most of the time. When its to wet to be in the field it can smear the surface and restrict drilling depth. Drilled maybe 4000 acres with it and the flints rip it to bits, rebuilt once, then replaced completely and will need doing again over winter. Anyone tried the steel wedge ring option?
Who do you get the rubber tyre rings from and do you replace the orange spacers , Tim Smith 2/3ds price , will have to split it as middle ring has moved and has a crack in it and worried it will let go and let the rings into scrapers
wold-topper
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- Yorkshire Wolds
I got a price from local dealer and when I said no rush we are doing it in winter they knocked about a third off
Best option the second time was a new and unused complete packer from Amazone, they had removed it for a customer wanting a standard packer roller
moldengineer
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- Rugby, Warwickshire
Best packer we ever had on a combi drill was a guttler. That was with Suffolk coulters. Guttler is self cleaning
Happy do you know of a wedge ring roller 3m ,looking to make a press roll for behind a cultivator and subsoiler instead of a coilOn lighter land which is what amazone recommend the wedge ring roller for then yes.
On heavy land you can struggle to get seed into the ground behind the ring roller.
Moved back to steel packer on mine because of this.
Beat me too it @snipe
Afraid not Will. Bought second Harrow with steel packer to put on combi drill and use original one with wedge ring as a stand along machine now.
Maybe one of the Amazone dealers might have something suitable lying in their yards?
Depends very much on the ground, but we sell Kv and always sell them on Packer Rollers, but on a combi we insist on them having carbide scrapers! If you keep them clean they will keep turning and have a very large diameter, the teeth are also in line with the coulters so ground is consolidated before them.
They do offer the Kerner Cracker packer on combi’s also, and I guess I’m stronger Land would definitely be an advantage but not that I’d have experience with.
They do offer the Kerner Cracker packer on combi’s also, and I guess I’m stronger Land would definitely be an advantage but not that I’d have experience with.
- Location
- Darlington
My first Amazone had the steel packer,forever renewing or altering the scrapers, second one had the s/h car tyres , got quite an expert at changing them until that size became extinct. present one is the rubber wedge ring,,11 seasons and never have to give it a thought.
, got quite an expert at changing them until that size became extinct. present one is the rubber wedge ring,,11 seasons and never have to give it a thought.
Kildare
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- Kildare, Ireland
Why are cage rollers not used more. Maintenance free. Large ones with well spaced bars.
- Location
- south norfolk
Because the buggers block up and weigh a ton
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