Panic buying straw.

[Werzle]

And where is that leaving the stock farmer without the muck, a big fert bill ?

Be better off selling the store cattle to the arable man

Job to utilise large amounts of fym on grassland without putting fields out of production for large periods

 

[Barleymow]

Wheres all the stock going to come from for all this fodder and straw? Best thing the arable men can do now is cosy up to the nearest livestock man and send him free straw for some manure in return.

But we can't spread it now ,or not as we would like too

 

[Werzle]

But we can't spread it now ,or not as we would like too

Yes that is big concern, chicken boys with all the poultry litter to get rid of will be in s.h.i.t street unless more can be burned or we all start using it on grassland in the spring . Storage will be a headache

 

[michael N123]

Job to utilise large amounts of fym on grassland without putting fields out of production for large periods

No it’s not

 

[lloyd]

£60

£60

Per acre?

 

[neilo]

All depends on regions etc but i posted on the fodder price tracker that more will be sold nearer £10 than £20 in my opinion. Farmers with a long standing loyal customer base will probably still get £18-25 maybe, but there was alot on offer at the end of last winter that went unsold so its anyones guess.

Really? I sold out and had stacks of folks ringing up trying to find some in March/April.

But yes, most folks will have plenty this year so no desperation to drive prices up. My surplus won’t be going anywhere though, with fert prices where they are.

 

[Werzle]

Really? I sold out and had stacks of folks ringing up trying to find some in March/April.

But yes, most folks will have plenty this year so no desperation to drive prices up. My surplus won’t be going anywhere though, with fert prices where they are.

Yeah you get folks who hold out for increasing prices and then spring comes and then the fodder price drops out of bed overnight. Same happened with straw, people posting straw for sale £40/bale, after the stock had been turned out

 

[neilo]

Yeah you get folks who hold out for increasing prices and then spring comes and then the fodder price drops out of bed overnight. Same happened with straw, people posting straw for sale £40/bale, after the stock had been turned out

Greed is good…

 

[Jerry]

Maybe mixed farming comes back in fashion?

And stock out over winter so not much straw needed….and adding fertility as they go.

(Yes I know, I farm in the soft south so stock can stay out 365)

 

[glasshouse]

Per acre?

Per wrapped bale

 

[lloyd]

Just bought some good stuff 5 minutes ago £15 a bale.
Might have overpaid but got to start somewhere.

 

[lloyd]

Per wrapped bale

Jeez rents will have to go up.

 

[neilo]

You lads in North Yorkshire will have to resort to cutting bracken with a sythe, drying it, and carting it in to the barn for bedding,


Seriously, many livestock farmers are going to have to think about growing a field of corn at home, to save on inputs, grain n straw, whats not to like about it

If you think growing corn is so easy, and profitable, and you have the ground suitable for it, wouldn’t you already be doing it?

Personally, the arable is only here to facilitate winter forage crops in a rotation. Most years, small scale arable cropping leaves a lot less profit per ac than a low input sheep flock ime.
I’m half tempted to grass down all my arable most years, double sheep numbers, and just take a few fields of grass out each year for beet and turnips. The pile of grain in the shed this year is making me think it’s not too bad as it is though.

 

[Devil's advocate]

Maybe mixed farming comes back in fashion?

And stock out over winter so not much straw needed….and adding fertility as they go.

(Yes I know, I farm in the soft south so stock can stay out 365)

Makes perfect sense

Hill land planted with trees, move the stock & stock persons to lower ground. More fertility for land, better rotations & less blackgrass.

Just need to tempt the hill farmers, down the hill.

Oh yes I agree a few fields of corn in the uplands too.

Less tractors on the road carting massive amounts of feed up to the hills.

 

[Al R]

Yeah you get folks who hold out for increasing prices and then spring comes and then the fodder price drops out of bed overnight. Same happened with straw, people posting straw for sale £40/bale, after the stock had been turned out

I charged someone £25/bale after I finished lambing for about 15 bales of straw, they said i was way cheaper than they could buy it in for with merchants, I did point out that greed isn’t good and I hope to do business with them every year so it’ll probably average out over a few years, it also meant it went and made way for this years crop.

 

[lloyd]

I charged someone £25/bale after I finished lambing for about 15 bales of straw, they said i was way cheaper than they could buy it in for with merchants, I did point out that greed isn’t good and I hope to do business with them every year so it’ll probably average out over a few years, it also meant it went and made way for this years crop.

Well if you want to buy my spare 300 at £15 a bale I dont
mind you being a middle man and charging £25 whilst doing
others a good turn.

 

[thorpe]

Aren’t arable men scared of cows and fences?

we are arable and beef we would have more cattle if it wasnt for people, were on the urban fringe and im very offended by your quote unless its a 700kg limmy.

 

[hendrebc]

Makes perfect sense

Hill land planted with trees, move the stock & stock persons to lower ground. More fertility for land, better rotations & less blackgrass.

Just need to tempt the hill farmers, down the hill.

Oh yes I agree a few fields of corn in the uplands too.

Less tractors on the road carting massive amounts of feed up to the hills.

Hill land planted with trees no! Leave the hill farmers where they are.
Breeding stock in the hills and finishing stock on the lower ground like it used to be.

 

[DrDunc]

Makes perfect sense

Hill land planted with trees, move the stock & stock persons to lower ground. More fertility for land, better rotations & less blackgrass.

Just need to tempt the hill farmers, down the hill.

Oh yes I agree a few fields of corn in the uplands too.

Less tractors on the road carting massive amounts of feed up to the hills.

Brilliant !!!!!

Where's all this extra lowland farmland coming from???

You know, where all us livestock breeders in the hills can move into when these trees get planted?

 

[Will 1594]

Yes that is big concern, chicken boys with all the poultry litter to get rid of will be in s.h.i.t street unless more can be burned or we all start using it on grassland in the spring . Storage will be a headache

Send 1000 ton here can put it on spring crops on the lightnland if you wanting it taking off your hands