Parts for 4200 multi drive rear hub

[zetor-man]

Multi drive 4200 rear hub, what type of hub are these?


seems to be thw weak link on these machines


where is the best place to buy S/H parts


Zm

 

[ACEngineering]

Multi drive 4200 rear hub, what type of hub are these?


seems to be thw weak link on these machines


where is the best place to buy S/H parts


Zm

What make axle is it?

 

[defender]

Clark hurth ,think its a 278 / 74

 

[zetor-man]

What make axle is it?

would it be a spicer axle ?

 

[Cab-over Pete]

They are Spicer on my M420

 

[defender]

Spicer took over Clark hurth , The 4200 axle is stamped with the CH on the hubs , parts are now sold as spicer from central driveline , axle model no as above
Manitou did use this axle cant remember which handler though

 

[ACEngineering]

These are clark hurth bits and despite there looks are perfectly clean up able and reusable. About to add them to my website.
I have a brand new one of them swivel housings as well.

What hub parts are you looking for? Send me some pictures and your axle numbers as I got some Dana spicer bits as well.

 

[Bumble Bee]

+1 for Central Driveline.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Will I be needing them @Bumble Bee ?

 

[ACEngineering]

Will I be needing them @Bumble Bee ?

On the handlers the clark hurth axels are prone to shearing the heads off the 4 bolts that hold the hub bearings together. if you have the same set up on the multidrive and wide tyres then I would think they will be just as likely to shear as the handlers do. Some versions had 8 bolts instead which I would say should be better although I think they are a smaller bolt that pass through a dowl?

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Great.

Probably not strong enough for lugging 8-9t of lime around for long then.

More promises that won't materialise!!

 

[ACEngineering]

Great.

Probably not strong enough for lugging 8-9t of lime around for long then.

More promises that won't materialise!!

I could be wrong, with out looking in side the hub too see or a parts list I wouldn't know.

 

[defender]

the M420 is a different axle from the 4200

 

[Cab-over Pete]

That doesn't mean it's better, knowing Kellands

 

[defender]

its a heavier axle but that doesn`t mean you cant break it

 

[ACEngineering]

That doesn't mean it's better, knowing Kellands

Assuming its a later machine and possibly a Dana Spicer then they don't have the same issue as they have 6 or 8 x big studs and nuts normally to hold wheel bearings.

Down side is wheel bearings were smaller Also the king pin swivel bearings took a back wards step from a heavy roller bearing to a 2 piece cup and cone bearing Again this is on the handlers and there was a heavier version of these axles so with out knowing any numbers its all guessing whats in there.

 

[zetor-man]

Assuming its a later machine and possibly a Dana Spicer then they don't have the same issue as they have 6 or 8 x big studs and nuts normally to hold wheel bearings.

Down side is wheel bearings were smaller Also the king pin swivel bearings took a back wards step from a heavy roller bearing to a 2 piece cup and cone bearing Again this is on the handlers and there was a heavier version of these axles so with out knowing any numbers its all guessing whats in there.

 

[ACEngineering]

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Proper job of that

Its a Dana Spicer. Looks same as manitou etc.
I assume the driveshaft is buggered too? I know i have the ring gear. Not sure what else i got.
Is the top hat reuseable with new bearings and gears?

I would need axle numbers to get some prices.

 

[ACEngineering]

Who was it on here that had a new front axle on there manitou mlt 840 a little while ago? I find the search on here bloody useless! I spend ages last week trying to find that post!
You might be luckly and be able to buy some spares off him if they are the same.

 

[Bumble Bee]

Will I be needing them @Bumble Bee ?

Noooooo.

I have only used them for some Massey front axle parts and some brake disc that I fitted when I rebuilt my old 6185. It turned out that it did not really need them, but as the axle was off I thought it would never be easier to change them.

I did have a bearing turn in the rear hub on the 6185 (10 tonne axle) last year. I am told that this axle is sometimes prone to this, but the 12 tonne axle is not affected.........or so they say lol.

There were 10 studs holding the hub bearing on, so I don't think you'll be shearing those off in a hurry.