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arcobob

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Location
Norfolk
I think a lot on here need to remember back and see that lockdown was never really controlled, as without full on marshall law - PEOPLE (Joe Public) do what they want, when they want, and did do.
Remember the twonks going to the park, the baracades in Wales to stop people visiting / using second homes, police forcing people to go back home - so for me I sit here thinking wtf is new.

Mankind is a selfish mammal, who doesn't give two fuks for anything other than its own desires. Naff all to do with government (as they're all at it), so maybe its time to stop all the mono focussed blame game, and try and move on.. Lifes too short...
I have some sympathy for that honest response. Maybe those with a sympathetic respect for others should change and simply wave the banner named "Stuffem All". Among these I number health workers.
 
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I have some sympathy for that honest response. Maybe those with a sympathetic respect for others should change and simply wave the banner named "Stuffem All".

But that isn't what people are saying and it is why the lockdown is such a mishmash. Death is a fact of life. People don't tend to live in care homes much over a year maximum. Be realistic about this. Help people have a good death and shield them as much as possible but lets not pretend they won't die of something. And make huge efforts for the vulnerable who need to shield who are not very elderly
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
But that isn't what people are saying and it is why the lockdown is such a mishmash. Death is a fact of life. People don't tend to live in care homes much over a year maximum. Be realistic about this. Help people have a good death and shield them as much as possible but lets not pretend they won't die of something. And make huge efforts for the vulnerable who need to shield who are not very elderly
I can look after myself and would probably survive a dose of Covid 19 but I do not subscribe to a culture which looks upon it as a convenient culling exercise.
 

Ukjay

Member
Location
Wales!
I have some sympathy for that honest response. Maybe those with a sympathetic respect for others should change and simply wave the banner named "Stuffem All". Among these I number health workers.

Hmm, interesting view!

I will ponder that alongside your response, one should also never insinuate something that is not there.. Comments are being made that the country has just gone bazerk, whereby I was clearly reflecting upon past occasions that have been happening for all to see, which is evident that there has always been a large proportion whom never really locked down and thought wtf.

You see, many are so far down the path they have chosen, it is simply a form of regurgitation of the same old shite we endurerd about Brexit, BoJo etal, that it is simply perplexing that all the supposed experts saying how things should have been done, what is wrong witht eh country etc; have not actually stepped up and taken the bull by the horns and tried to make a change.

It appears to be simply easier to be an ambassador of spin behind the keyboard, which often follows a slating of anyone whom chose to view things differently to them as heratics...
 

turbo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
lincs
Talking to someone today who is In the pharmaceutical business and is one of the companies that will have a vaccine soon but they are struggling now because the infection rate is so low outside care homes they are thinking of having to move the research to Africa to find enough people with the infection.So that is my guess as to why the lockdown has been removed
 

Ukjay

Member
Location
Wales!
I can look after myself and would probably survive a dose of Covid 19 but I do not subscribe to a culture which looks upon it as a convenient culling exercise.

That could be read as something akin to jumping to implied conclusions towards another, which for me is a dangerous game to play when we know not what has been discussed or decided.
We are not the experts we would like to think we are, otherwise we would be in the hot seat. It is with things like we see too often now, that I often ponder how many on here would hold up to such continuous backbiting if this was all directed at them.

I fear that in all reality, not many would be able to sustain the constant barrage.. yet we support this behaviour...
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
Talking to someone today who is In the pharmaceutical business and is one of the companies that will have a vaccine soon but they are struggling now because the infection rate is so low outside care homes they are thinking of having to move the research to Africa to find enough people with the infection.So that is my guess as to why the lockdown has been removed
An interesting view and hopefully some substance,
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
That could be read as something akin to jumping to implied conclusions towards another, which for me is a dangerous game to play when we know not what has been discussed or decided.
We are not the experts we would like to think we are, otherwise we would be in the hot seat. It is with things like we see too often now, that I often ponder how many on here would hold up to such continuous backbiting if this was all directed at them.

I fear that in all reality, not many would be able to sustain the constant barrage.. yet we support this behaviour...
:scratchhead: :scratchhead::scratchhead: Sorry , I must be really thick.
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
The virus isn't supposed to last long outdoors, so maybe this will help ?‍♂️
There's even cars with foreign plates trundling past me now. And I notice vapour trails in the sky too. Lockdown well and truly over. Oh well, see what happens.......:(
 

Ukjay

Member
Location
Wales!
:scratchhead: :scratchhead::scratchhead: Sorry , I must be really thick.

First off, I am not directing any points at you in a manner to cause offence, so if it comes across that way I apologise up front :)

Your comment made:

but I do not subscribe to a culture which looks upon it as a convenient culling exercise.

The above comment followed a few posts that seemed were not fully aligned with your side of the equation from reading it, hence why I wrote there could be an implied conclusion that you feel for example; I was one who doesn't care about what happens and was all for convenient culling etc, following my added comments to the contrary of the normal diatribe we are seeing about the ongoing Govt shenanigans.

It is seemingly just a different spin to allow some to continue the anti govt cause by stating mono focussed views, which if one stopped and reflected such things fully; these challenges have been there for far longer than some wish to admit..
 

Still Farming

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
The virus isn't supposed to last long outdoors, so maybe this will help ?‍♂️
There's even cars with foreign plates trundling past me now. And I notice vapour trails in the sky too. Lockdown well and truly over. Oh well, see what happens.......:(
Busier than ever about the place.
Persons can exercise 40miles on their bikes but can't go more than 5 miles to see family here in Wales?
Crazy.
Foreign lorries in and out around here day and night also.
 

JCMaloney

Member
Location
LE9 2JG
Scottish medical bod said your best protection is your front door.
The Government can only "ask the people" for so long, should have told them from Day One and stuck with it until the R number was below 0.5.
All the stupid fudgees out at the weekend will probably be fine, their Aunt`s and Grannys who they met up with and hugged will probably die.
Death from Covid is, effectively, drowning whilst laying in a bed plumbed into lots of machines being turned over by a team of staff in full PPE.
There is no "fix", there is no "cure" there is just support to either get through it or leave this mortal coil.
 

turbo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
lincs
Yes July and October the medical fraternity say.
How the hell they going to stop the public now ,goodness knows.
Like a gap in the hedge and the sheep have found it???
What you mean is the left leaning in the medical fraternity!!People that I know in the medical world cannot see a second wave here because it hasn’t happened anywhere else yet
 

Tomr10

Member
I know I shouldn't but been watching the news.
UK covid doing a crap job yada yada next story onto Brazil and there doing a much better job. Then back to uk where fires and a number of other issues are because of covid. Then to a random woman that's decided not to send her kids to school because of scientific advice.

Sombody show me the research group that has individually sanitised this data
 

JCMaloney

Member
Location
LE9 2JG
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Fairly "safe" to post this as is the current model. The current issue is the "thickness" of the tail combined with the R rate. If R gets above 1 to something as minimal as 1.2 or 1.4 we are in a cartload of trouble, but better prepared than we were for the first wave. What are likely to get is a "row of speedbumps" as restrictions are lifted.
Its going to be with us for a very long time, how we all deal with it is what will define the impact.
 

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