Pasture or Arable Land Wanted to Rent, up to £1000 per day!

[JCMaloney]

Can you tell me are members covered by public liability insurance, not the FID or MCMD that only covers you for farm damage to the farm, are the local FLO informed about these events as there are over 50 people and must have at least 12 weeks notice. As a farmer I would not be happy letting anyone one on my farm apart from a local club, you seem to be letting anyone on your digs and you don't even know them. How do you know your not letting night hawkers on the land iv had murders with them.

Its Natural England that administer the derogation for large scale detecting events on stewardship land.
Its the NCMD (National Council for Metal Detecting).
I did mention stewardship earlier in this thread but I was "being misleading" so I was told!!

 

[Lets Go Digging]

May i suggest a good read? https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0091906814

Clubs do not "own the land", the landowners do...I have no issue with sharing.
Clubs do not "restrict" membership beyond the realms of common sense.
Our average membership "turnover" is 10% as people move away, pass away etc and we have grown from 35 to 55 members over the last 6 years. Anyone who applies gets "associate membership" and is invited to digs & meeting to see if they get on with us & vice versa, thats when they learn the basics and build friendships.
Each year we recruit the active associates as full members.

Personally I would rather go out with 30 people I know something about than 100 strangers who have the mindset "I`ve paid my money, I`m filling my pockets & stuff the landowner".

If you hadn`t chosen to reply with your seemingly usual venom & hostility you wouldn`t be "wasting any more of your time".

Thats my last contribution to this as we obviously have different outlooks on the hobby....I would rather it was based on friendship & trust built up over time, others would rather it was who`s got the fattest wallet or sees members as £££££`s.

 

[Lets Go Digging]

Lets be honest here, you made your first comment on my thread, filled it with unjustified comments, inuendos and smarmy digs. Just like your clever dick link on how to make friends. I have dealt with many keyboard warriors over the years and can recognise one from their first sentence. You sir, are one! As you say, we have different views on this hobby, mine being that your little clubs with their 45 members in six years who like to believe they can monopolise land in their area are coming to an end. The number of detectorists in the UK are increasing substantially and you are not allowing enough of them the opportunity to exercise their hobby. Lets Go Digging are making this possible, we are answering the call to get land in all areas and we are achieving this. Farmers are business people, in many cases they are struggling and when it comes down generating revenue, allowing 40 'strangers' on their land, strangers who are part of a recognised, organised group that provide references from other landowners, marshal each event professionally and pay what is due, for you to slate this process is in fact damaging the future of the hobby and depriving farmers of considerable revenue in many cases. So please, as you promised in an earlier post, close the door on your way out and allow me to opportunity to help farmers and detectorists alike.

 

[JCMaloney]

I`m not closing the door chap, I contribute a fair bit to this forum.
I`ve met several of the members on here & have arranged past & future events on their land.
I guess the difference is that I don`t play "Charlie Big Chops" like some....or "keyboard warriors" as you put it.
Take a chill pill & manage your aggression a bit, its a forum & every member is entitled to an opinion.

The number of detectorists is something I actually know a lot about, albeit based on NCMD membership levels, & whilst ours may have increased following the changes in FID the overall numbers are relatively stable. In fact I would say there are more groups after the £££`s than there are participants willing to pay.

TTFN xxx

 

[hole digger]

Lets go digging I think you should read the treasure act about events, you will find you are breaking the law on a few counts. 50+ is classed as a event, so you have to let local FLO know 12 week before the dig, you have to do a risk assessment by law, you have to have public liability insurance to cover yourself and the public on the dig, FID and NCMD do not cover this. Wonder how many farmers know about this unless they are told which you should tell them from the start. By not replying to what I have asked is not very good on your part if your looking for land. To be paying a farmer £1000 you would need 70 people on the land at £15 a head that is classed as a event.

 

[Lets Go Digging]

I believe you have failed to mention "If the land to be searched is under an Entry Level Scheme the 12 week rule applies?

• The Entry Level Stewardship Handbook states that 'details of large scale metal detecting events, including metal detecting rallies, on any ELS agreement land must be notified to Natural England at least 12 weeks in advance of the event.' Any event attended by more than 50 detector-users will fall within this scope.

When we are effected by this, then we shall comply! So please, once again, discontinue with your misleading comments!!!

 

[hole digger]

Iv seen some of your digs that have more than 50, iv seen one put up that has 60. The one with 60 is only a few weeks away so you have not informed anyone that is fact, we are talking about the treasure act, I will let the local FLO know about the dig which you have 60 people booked on to should think she will not be to pleased.

 

[Lets Go Digging]

Iv seen some of your digs that have more than 50, iv seen one put up that has 60. The one with 60 is only a few weeks away so you have not informed anyone that is fact, we are talking about the treasure act, I will let the local FLO know about the dig which you have 60 people booked on to should think she will not be to pleased.

You have no idea what you are talking about, we are not on ELS land. Please feel free to contact FLO's in the area relevant to all our digs. I am in communication with the one from Shropshire and Herefordshire at this very moment so that will save you some time. Please don't forget to mention that there are photographs of every find recorded on our website too.

 

[hole digger]

Oh dear getting the hump truth hurts, seen you and your a mate a few times get the hump with people, name calling and other nice names. Just hope farmers open their eyes to you and your LTD company. Good day to you.

 

[Lets Go Digging]

Errrrhm, who's getting the hump? Its not me that is getting everything wrong and its not me who is showing themselves up as a tale telling little trouble maker trying to lose farmers cash! Every farmer has the choice, what is it to you I wonder? Why not take a look at our website gallery, you can see the pictures of the Bishops ring presently being examined along with the Saxon brooch. Not forgetting the spearhead that was measured and photographed for recording last week. Hopefully there will be more submissions to come very soon! Good day to you too!

 

[hole digger]

Lol, I have looked at your website anyone one can put something like that up, you crack on with what you are doing there are a lot of people watching you from all over the UK that are not happy. At some point you will be investigated on how you run things. Anyway got better things to do than sitting here laughing at you.

 

[Lets Go Digging]

Well, you've spent long enough sat there in view of your better things to do, they must be exciting! I would certainly hope there ARE plenty of people allover the UK watching us too! When you have a good name, get good land and treat your farmers with respect, that tends to get around! Thanks for your obvious bitter comment about our website, so we are now putting pictures up of things not found are we lol? Dear me, your intention is quite obvious to anyone who reads it, as is mine!

 

[hole digger]

All farmers over the UK, please contact your local clubs if you want to raise money for yourselves or a charity, not a LTD Company who only have one thing on their mind. ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££. Enough said.

 

[Lets Go Digging]

Yes, all farmers over the UK, contact your local MD clubs if you want to earn money for yourselves! Errhh, why not then contact Lets Go Digging and earn ten times more, have a proper company ensuring you get to see the finds and benefit from potential major discoveries which WILL be declared? Sounds a it like the same horse, different jockey to me! The only thing you have said that makes any sense today was your last two words! I agree wholeheartedly!

 

[JCMaloney]

@hole digger .... if you are going to quote "law" please make sure you are correct first.
1. The Treasure Act has nothing to do with the FLO and/or stewardship. It is administered on behalf of the Crown by the local coroner.
2. You do not have to notify an FLO of a "large scale event" if it is on stewardship land. You have to obtain a derogation from Natural England. Failing to do so could result in reduction/retention of payments.
3. You don`t even need to notify an FLO about Treasure you can go direct to the coroner within the statutory 14 days.
4. Self recording with PAS is to be commended & recording finds is a requirement of stewardship schemes.

Aside from that the business model is a bit flawed if only 30 folk turn up (Somerset) then the promise of "thousands" diminishes somewhat.
We will be out again on Sunday with our 30+ folk (same as LGD managed), the members will pay £10 each...£8 goes to the landowner, £2 goes in the charity pot all accounts will be available for the members & landowners to see and another donation will go to a great local cause in due course.

No fuss...... no bother. Its how a hobby should be.

And thats the last bump you`ll get from me @Lets Go Digging

 

[hole digger]

@hole digger .... if you are going to quote "law" please make sure you are correct first.
1. The Treasure Act has nothing to do with the FLO and/or stewardship. It is administered on behalf of the Crown by the local coroner.
2. You do not have to notify an FLO of a "large scale event" if it is on stewardship land. You have to obtain a derogation from Natural England. Failing to do so could result in reduction/retention of payments.
3. You don`t even need to notify an FLO about Treasure you can go direct to the coroner within the statutory 14 days.
4. Self recording with PAS is to be commended & recording finds is a requirement of stewardship schemes.

Aside from that the business model is a bit flawed if only 30 folk turn up (Somerset) then the promise of "thousands" diminishes somewhat.
We will be out again on Sunday with our 30+ folk (same as LGD managed), the members will pay £10 each...£8 goes to the landowner, £2 goes in the charity pot all accounts will be available for the members & landowners to see and another donation will go to a great local cause in due course.

No fuss...... no bother. Its how a hobby should be.

And thats the last bump you`ll get from me @Lets Go Digging

Thanks for that.

 

[bobk]

Here's the reality ... ok you pocket a grand for a few diggers who've paid , tomorrow you get 50 clandestine diggers ... word travels fast.
Right to roam has made farmers shut the gate .. tightly .

The only men I give permission to are armed.

 

[hole digger]

Lol, people will see your true colours. go ahead and report me, don't like it when its done to you do you, but its ok for you to slag people on other sites, because they can see what your up to.

 

[Lets Go Digging]

You are a sad littlle man that has joined this forum today and made defamous comments in order to attack me personally. That is one problem with these forums, you are not accountable for your comments. I pesonally don't go about 'slagging' anyone off so again, it only goes to show why you are posting here, a personal vendetta that will not turn any decent persons head.

 

[hole digger]

Here we go name calling, shall I put posts up from other sites where you have attacked people and name calling iv kept them all.