Pastured Poultry

Hilly

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Are you sitting down?
London is a different country though, different planet really.

Apologies and compliments to the farmer! Top chicken.
Good I like to see food expensive , boils my pee cheap meat when an animal had to die then treat like cheap sh!t commodity so all good from me !
 

Poorbuthappy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Good I like to see food expensive , boils my pee cheap meat when an animal had to die then treat like cheap sh!t commodity so all good from me !
One of the guys from Ethical butcher says we shouldn't be asking why its so dear, rather, why is supermarket chicken so cheap?
Not wishing to cast aspersions on any producers, but cheap chicken is very much a commodity, and not a system I'd want to be part of, from a financial or ethical perspective.
 

Humble Village Farmer

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BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
Are you sitting down?
London is a different country though, different planet really.

Apologies and compliments to the farmer! Top chicken.
It's only expensive because food has become so "cheap". In affordability terms, £20 for a chicken actually sounds fine. An hour's wages?
 

holwellcourtfarm

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Livestock Farmer
Are you sitting down?
London is a different country though, different planet really.

Apologies and compliments to the farmer! Top chicken.
Around £20 for a quality chicken seems ok to me.

We usually get 8 to 10 meal servings from one chicken that size.
 
I always boil up the bones and fat after. I made a brilliant glutenous stock full of flavour and minerals.

We raise about 100 organic in one go. My friend has the system with the boiler and the plucker he brings it up I set up tables and old curtains around on heras fencing. Water system. All calm, bless every chicken. I put the chicken in bins with ice until ready to gut and sort. stacked in slated boxes to dry. I bag and freeze. Having chicken here has been brilliant. Only downside is there is not portioned chicken its all whole so more time needs to be set aside to perhaps cut up in future. Blood collected in sawdust. He takes a lot of the offal for his dogs. I freeze a load of necks and livers. Jet wash the area down after. Do this over 2 days over 2 weeks.
 

beefandsleep

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Location
Staffordshire
Chicken always used to be an expensive meat before we learned to grow them in a factory. I’d love to see huge colony’s banned, hens aren’t supposed to live in huge flocks, 500 is more than enough. Then we would see a massive increase in small producers, new starters, poultry could become a great route for new starters in farming without having to borrow massive amounts of cash.
Smaller more local and resilient supply chains would develop. Basically we would have to rip the industry down to the ground and build it up again but the human and animal welfare gains would be worth it in my opinion.
 

holwellcourtfarm

Member
Livestock Farmer
I always boil up the bones and fat after. I made a brilliant glutenous stock full of flavour and minerals.

We raise about 100 organic in one go. My friend has the system with the boiler and the plucker he brings it up I set up tables and old curtains around on heras fencing. Water system. All calm, bless every chicken. I put the chicken in bins with ice until ready to gut and sort. stacked in slated boxes to dry. I bag and freeze. Having chicken here has been brilliant. Only downside is there is not portioned chicken its all whole so more time needs to be set aside to perhaps cut up in future. Blood collected in sawdust. He takes a lot of the offal for his dogs. I freeze a load of necks and livers. Jet wash the area down after. Do this over 2 days over 2 weeks.
Ideally we would be allowed to compost the offal and feathers for fertiliser value.....
 

holwellcourtfarm

Member
Livestock Farmer
Chicken always used to be an expensive meat before we learned to grow them in a factory. I’d love to see huge colony’s banned, hens aren’t supposed to live in huge flocks, 500 is more than enough. Then we would see a massive increase in small producers, new starters, poultry could become a great route for new starters in farming without having to borrow massive amounts of cash.
Smaller more local and resilient supply chains would develop. Basically we would have to rip the industry down to the ground and build it up again but the human and animal welfare gains would be worth it in my opinion.
When dad started in 1966 he spent his savings on 500 point-of-lay pullets to get quick income and sold the eggs at the door to passing trade.

Exactly the point you are making.
 

onesiedale

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Derbyshire
It's only expensive because food has become so "cheap". In affordability terms, £20 for a chicken actually sounds fine. An hour's wages?
Well, I've got one on the way, although I must admit some good old fashioned bartering made it taste great already 😁 -
fair swap, a chicken for ½ dozen packs of our grass-fed butter.👌
 
One of the guys from Ethical butcher says we shouldn't be asking why its so dear, rather, why is supermarket chicken so cheap?
Not wishing to cast aspersions on any producers, but cheap chicken is very much a commodity, and not a system I'd want to be part of, from a financial or ethical perspective.
I had an interview for a job as a specialist poultry production vet a couple of years ago. Concerns about the ethics of the whole mainstream poultry job was a significant factor in not taking things any further. Apparently a lot of the farmers are under significant pressure and sometimes vet visits were almost for a chat as much as anything else.
 

Poorbuthappy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
I had an interview for a job as a specialist poultry production vet a couple of years ago. Concerns about the ethics of the whole mainstream poultry job was a significant factor in not taking things any further. Apparently a lot of the farmers are under significant pressure and sometimes vet visits were almost for a chat as much as anything else.
PMs and health planning is about exciting as it gets for poultry vets i understand?
Good pay though.
 

Jonny B88

Member
Location
ballykelly. NI
For a multiple of meals too! But how many people on the street can cook a whole chicken and use the leftovers for multiple meals in the days following.
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For a multiple of meals too! But how many people on the street can cook a whole chicken and use the leftovers for multiple meals in the days following.
this is pretty well the problem with our society currently. People need educated on things like this.
 

futurefarming

Member
Livestock Farmer
We're thinking of starting a pastured broiler enterprise, similar to Salatin-style, and I'm looking for supplier recommendations near Gloucestershire. Anyone have any leads? Preferably able to supply birds ready to go on pasture, as we'd rather not do the brooder bit if we can avoid it. Thanks in advance!
 

Poorbuthappy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Resurrected thread alert, but don't let anyone tell you chickens won't graze much.
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