Payment timings for Mid/Higher Tier

Discussion in 'Tenant Farming, Subsidies, BPS & Legal Issues' started by Brisel, Nov 16, 2017.

  1. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    Just drawing up next year's budget/cash flows. Assuming all goes well, I'll start a Higher Tier CS agreement 1st Jan 2018.

    When are we supposed to start receiving payments for CS? For those of you who had 2016 start dates, have you had anything yet?
     
  2. carpenter1

    carpenter1 Member

    Location:
    devon
    I started one in January 2017, and nothing yet
     
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  3. Same here.
     
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  4. Wooly

    Wooly Member

    Location:
    Romney Marsh
    Started in Jan 2016......... still waiting and get a promised payment date each month, but never see the payment !

    I suggest you don't put any figure in the budget that you rely on !


    @RPA @Guy Smith
     
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  5. Have you not received any money at all?! That's really bad.
     
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  6. worker

    worker Member

    I went to a 'workshop' and was told they would pay it at the same time as Basic Payment . Started one 1.1.17 so perhaps might get some on 1.12.17?
     
  7. carpenter1

    carpenter1 Member

    Location:
    devon
    I would like to think we will get paid early next month, we will see.
     
  8. Farmer T

    Farmer T Member

    Location:
    East Midlands
    Joined CSS Jan 16.

    Had one half year payment. Pathetic.
     
  9. cattleman123

    cattleman123 Member

    Location:
    devon
    Anyone been asked for soil samples..i/e test for lime and potash for my countryside stewardship agreement..a new one to me
     
  10. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    Yes. I had to do them before the September deadline for options that involve reducing fertility, SSSIs etc
     
  11. farmerm

    farmerm Member

    Location:
    Shropshire
    Don't include it in the budget... take it as a bonus if, sorry, when it arrives.
     
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  12. bankrupt

    bankrupt Member

    Location:
    EX17/20
    Good advice, farmerm.

    But it's still most unsatisfactory that when doing one's budgets for the bank one can legitimately include both the costs and the associated income, but when doing one's cashflows having to remember to include all the costs and to exclude the associated income.

    Suppose we shall just have to get used to it.

    :banghead:
     
  13. Old Tip

    Old Tip Member

    Location:
    Cumbria
    Been told I should get a payment before the end of the year but we will wait and see :(
     
  14. Fergieman

    Fergieman Member

    Location:
    Northumberland
    Been in ELS/HLS since 2010 and to begin with the payments came every 6 months from start date. They then adjusted payments to go with the calender year but still every 6 months. Then they changed that they could not pay you untill you SPS claim was validated so now get a payment in December and the final payment early spring for the previous year.
     
  15. bankrupt

    bankrupt Member

    Location:
    EX17/20
    Much as one can always do with a really good laugh, Old Tip, in my humble opinion these cash-flow delays are rapidly getting well beyond a joke.

    Part of the problem is that the entire old boy networks at the NFU and the CLA, being all high profit makers in their own right (whether from their own hard graft or from some or other fortuitous succession), would happily see as many payments as possible put off into their next tax year or, better still, into the one after that.

    They really have absolutely no idea just how close us plebs' feet is to the fire.
     
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  16. Wooly

    Wooly Member

    Location:
    Romney Marsh
    I have been promised.......for the forth time this year...... a payment tomorrow for the 2016 year.

    Apparently if the RPA computer system can't make the payment, Natural England are going to make a manual payment.

    Waiting in exciting anticipation !
     
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  17. bankrupt

    bankrupt Member

    Location:
    EX17/20
    Has it come in before the 15.30 cutoff, Wooly?

    If so, I wish to record my sincere and grovelling apologies to all on this forum for my lack of faith in NE and for some sadly overblown rhetoric (see above).

    If not, not.
     
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  18. Wooly

    Wooly Member

    Location:
    Romney Marsh
    Just looked and the answer is no........the b###ards...........

    Anyone fancy doing some ploughing, as leaving quality Romney Marsh dirt to the wildlife and sheep definitely doesn't pay !?!
     

  19. Didnt you get the message....?
    You can never leave.
     
  20. Sid

    Sid Member

    Location:
    South Molton
    I have spoken to NE twice about our payment for start date Jan 2017
    1st i was told Oct/Nov
    2nd I was told Nov/Dec.

    This is for my "advance payment"
    Quote from dictionary
    to pay someone some money before the regular time.
    to go or move something forward, or to develop or improve something

    I don't see NE doing either of these things!
     
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