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haven't your April 22 born show calves been born yet ???The thinking (and honest) man's limmy
haven't your April 22 born show calves been born yet ???The thinking (and honest) man's limmy
What's the point of that? They'd still be in the same class as the Nov born Jan calveshaven't your April 22 born show calves been born yet ???
Just because the OP mentioned BB and Lim.
A BSH cow is an excellent cross with a Sim, but I'm guessing the OP is looking for wee fancy pants type show calves if he's going to the extremes of keeping pure BB cows.
The docility of the cow is a big factor for me. I know there are farmers that have quiet cows across various breeds but for me you can always be guaranteed with BB that they will be calm and quiet. The pedigree element as oppose to a cross is to increase the BB geneticsI can't see the point in that type of cow.
A Shorthorn cow with a Lim or BB bull makes more sense in my mind
Lets say an opportunity presented itself that half a dozen pedigree BB heifers were going for the little more than cross bred incalf heifers. Would you take the chance ? my biggest concern is around difficulty calving and primarily if a caesarian was to become the norm.If you have got the ped bb's already and fancy a change of bull then crack on but i cant see the point in buying some to do it. No point buying expensive racehorse mares to breed cheap riding ponies is there .
Have them pelvic scored and weed out any with very small pelvis's to reduce chances of calving difficulties and ceasariansLets say an opportunity presented itself that half a dozen pedigree BB heifers were going for the little more than cross bred incalf heifers. Would you take the chance ? my biggest concern is around difficulty calving and primarily if a caesarian was to become the norm.
A Shorthorn is as quiet as any breed and will take a lot less keeping than a lean muscular type.The docility of the cow is a big factor for me. I know there are farmers that have quiet cows across various breeds but for me you can always be guaranteed with BB that they will be calm and quiet. The pedigree element as oppose to a cross is to increase the BB genetics
This.Have them pelvic scored and weed out any with very small pelvis's to reduce chances of calving difficulties and ceasarians
for commercial beef ?
I seem to be getting mixed messages here......you are correct, the focus is on producing calves that will have the potential to be 'show type' animals.
A Shorthorn is as quiet as any breed and will take a lot less keeping than a lean muscular type.
You can add the muscle with the bull.
I'd rather keep one terminal bull than a herd of terminal cows.
I've calved around 40 odd BSH sired cows and heifers for quite a few years and have found them to be just about perfect for temperament. The bullocks are very laid back, and the few pure BSH cows I've had were just about pets.But many Beef Shorthorns are now like bad Dairy Shorthorns. And the ''Beef Shorthorn'' stores I've seen sold as as flighty as any others.
The same goes for Angus crosses. It used to be a quiet breed, but now...........
And Limousins and Limousin crosses are just the opposite. What used to be a breed with a reputation for being wild, is now just about the most docile.
Putting a maternal bull over a terminal cow, why?This farm runs BB and BBx cows put to a Simmental, with good results.
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I've often wondered about getting a proper traditional dairy shorthorn, feeding it well, blowing its hair up and seeing how it did in beef shorthorn classesBut many Beef Shorthorns are now like bad Dairy Shorthorns. And the ''Beef Shorthorn'' stores I've seen sold as as flighty as any others.
The same goes for Angus crosses. It used to be a quiet breed, but now...........
And Limousins and Limousin crosses are just the opposite. What used to be a breed with a reputation for being wild, is now just about the most docile.
I’ve found sim cross and Charlie crosses the best suckler cows very good mothersout of interest why didnt you suggest a Simmy ?