Permanent clover understory

[jack6480]

Have DD clover into predominately ryegrass pastures with reasonable success but has anyone tried DD herbal mixes?

yes has worked well but you need to be able to see soil, then some slurry after drilling helps

 

[Bearded farmer]

How’s everyone’s clover understorey holding up? Been interesting reading all the above.

 

[jack6480]

Accidentally sprayed mine out

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Accidentally sprayed mine out

Easily done.

Mine is full of creeping thistle. It had 2 litres of glyphosate in mid Feb which was obviously too early for them. It's supposed to have spring oats in it but they are still in the bag.

Need to discuss options with the agronomy department.

 

[Badshot]

Easily done.

Mine is full of creeping thistle. It had 2 litres of glyphosate in mid Feb which was obviously too early for them. It's supposed to have spring oats in it but they are still in the bag.

Need to discuss options with the agronomy department.

Glyphosate doesn't do much to creeping thistle anyway.

 

[jack6480]

Easily done.

Mine is full of creeping thistle. It had 2 litres of glyphosate in mid Feb which was obviously too early for them. It's supposed to have spring oats in it but they are still in the bag.

Need to discuss options with the agronomy department.

I put shield on mine for similar reasons even at low rates it wiped it out

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

I put shield on mine for similar reasons even at low rates it wiped it out

What about the clover?

 

[Wigeon]

Was anyone involved with the innovative farmers trials? The conclusions seemed to be yield based (30% reduction compared to the control), rather than margin. That said, in organic there will be more of a correlation, given there aren't any synthetic inputs.

Also increase in perennial weeds and grass weeds.

 

[jack6480]

Was anyone involved with the innovative farmers trials? The conclusions seemed to be yield based (30% reduction compared to the control), rather than margin. That said, in organic there will be more of a correlation, given there aren't any synthetic inputs.

Also increase in perennial weeds and grass weeds.

You always have to spoil it

 

[Wigeon]

You always have to spoil it

Just come out I think, hence asking. Not all bad though! Bit of a shame as I've been trying for years to get it to work!

Living Mulches Final Report - Agricology

The final report for Innovative Farmers field lab trials which aimed to determine the impacts of living mulches on cash crop yields and weed composition.

agricology.co.uk

 

[jack6480]

What about the clover?

deaders

 

[Horn&corn]

I got the impression from one of the farmers in the trial it was worse than 30% yield drop. Perhaps he had a near failure and others not too much of a yield penalty. Needs to be run for a number of years to see if continuous organic arable cropping can be achieved.