Pesticide residues in farmland

[holwellcourtfarm]

A recently published study:

Pesticide residues in European agricultural soils – A hidden reality unfolded

Pesticide use is a major foundation of the agricultural intensification observed over the last few decades. As a result, soil contamination by pestici…

www.sciencedirect.com

Thoughts?

 

[Pan mixer]

I wounder which organisation funded that work?

 

[Skimmer]

Like saying roads are contaminated with, rubber oil & litter, it's a consequence of using soil to grow food cheap enough for everyone to afford.

 

[Goweresque]

One suspects that is more a result of the ability to detect increasingly small amounts of something, rather than anything that is in anyway detrimental to anyone.

 

[teslacoils]

One suspects that is more a result of the ability to detect increasingly small amounts of something, rather than anything that is in anyway detrimental to anyone.

Yup. Exactly this. Limits set are entirely arbitrary.

 

[Pan mixer]

Once detected there then has been an EU maximum limit put on these chemicals, apparently at random with no scientific backup in many cases. then, that is the law.

 

[GeorgeK]

Chernobyl is now an incredible wildlife haven. Fish, bears, wolves, all thriving. Radiation contamination hasn't posed a problem for nature, all it needed was for the people to leave

 

[Goweresque]

Chernobyl is now an incredible wildlife haven. Fish, bears, wolves, all thriving. Radiation contamination hasn't posed a problem for nature, all it needed was for the people to leave

There is a theory that a small amount of radiation is actually good for living things. Its called Radiation Hormesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hormesis).

 

[Will Blackburn]

Some of the worst most persistent chemicals are still available to organic growers, they didn't test for Copper. Funny that.

 

[uztrac]

The more elderly members of this forum will well remember using products susch as " Metasystox " and DDT etc etc..Are these products in the subsoil ? and contaminating current water supplies ?

 

[farmerm]

The research needs put into context... people don't consume much soil They do however drink plenty of water.... Pesticides can be detected in drinking water but so can significant levels of contraceptive hormones, industrial chemicals, anti-depressants and cocaine to mention only a few.

 

[Exfarmer]

Science has moved on a lot since I was at school.
does anyone understand the term
1 mgkg ( uppercase -1)

 

[farmerm]

The more elderly members of this forum will well remember using products susch as " Metasystox " and DDT etc etc..Are these products in the subsoil ? and contaminating current water supplies ?

DDT is still used in parts of the world... I read China alone make 4,500T of it a year!

 

[Exfarmer]

The more elderly members of this forum will well remember using products susch as " Metasystox " and DDT etc etc..Are these products in the subsoil ? and contaminating current water supplies ?

meta was horrible stuff dreaded using it!
DDT has a very low ld50 for humans, which is why it was so widely used and recognised as having saved more lives than pennicillin.
but it is horrendous for the planet accepted

 

[teslacoils]

Contraceptive hormones have known problems in water. There are alternatives. Can't really understand why they don't get curtailed ......ah. Now I see.

 

[newhollandcruzr]

The research needs put into context... people don't consume much soil They do however drink plenty of water.... Pesticides can be detected in drinking water but so can significant levels of contraceptive hormones, industrial chemicals, anti-depressants and cocaine to mention only a few.

I went to a nfu meeting a few years ago and they said if the water someone drinks has the maximum permissible limit of pesticide in for there whole life they would have the same amount of toxins in their body as if they had smoked one cigarette or drunk half a bottle of wine !! Just because they can dedect in so tiny amounts it do mean its going to kill you !! As you say put into context.

 

[wanton dwarf]

A recently published study:

Pesticide residues in European agricultural soils – A hidden reality unfolded

Pesticide use is a major foundation of the agricultural intensification observed over the last few decades. As a result, soil contamination by pestici…

www.sciencedirect.com

Thoughts?

A few observations:

All kitchens, living rooms, toilets, bathrooms, dining rooms, cars, lorries, buses, trains etc in all modern societies will have pesticides in them. All sewers will have pesticides in them.

All supermarkets, food stores, GP surgies, dentists and hospitals will have pesticides in them.

These pesticides will kill 99.99% of all life - including soil bacteria and human cells.


Unsurprisingly farmers use pesticides .. it would be no bloomin use buying a pesticide to put on soil in the vain hope of killing weeds for that pesticide to disappear in short order.

It would be nice for those showing such concern about "Agricultural Land" to instead spend their time healing the damage caused by "Recycling" which has ended up polluting our oceans .. it would also be nice if those who treat human waste didn't also end up polluting rivers - ie micro plastics from washing machines and untreated sewerage.

I have grave doubts that those who say they are "Protecting the environment" are actually doing the complete opposite.

 

[farmerm]

I expect most households have a Ttriazole in the form of Clotrimazole or Clotrimazole+Fluconazole their house, something they apply directly to their skin without hesitation...

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

One suspects that is more a result of the ability to detect increasingly small amounts of something, rather than anything that is in anyway detrimental to anyone.

This is true of many compounds these days but doesn't necessarily mean they are not damaging to health.

A large study in Denmark found a statistically significant risk increase for colorectal cancer at 3.87 mg/l nitrate in drinking water, a level unmeasureable a couple of decades ago. It isn't proof but it's very strongly indicative of the dangers of nitrate at very low levels and would help explain the world leading colorectal cancer rate in Christchurch, NZ.

Nitrate in drinking water and colorectal cancer risk: A nationwide population-based cohort study - PubMed

Nitrate in drinking water may increase risk of colorectal cancer due to endogenous transformation into carcinogenic N-nitroso compounds. Epidemiological studies are few and often challenged by their limited ability of estimating long-term exposure on a detailed individual level. We exploited...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

I expect most households have a Ttriazole in the form of Clotrimazole or Clotrimazole+Fluconazole their house, something they apply directly to their skin without hesitation...

Most shower gels and shampoos contain sodium laureth sulphate, a liquid used in embalming requiring strict ppe!