Philosophy and deep thinking

[Jameshenry]

 

[Kiwi Pete]

^^^ that's me

 

[Jameshenry]

^^^ that's me

Works for me to .... i see too many headless chickens running around all stressed up, i don't know what it is they are chasing, and i doubt very much they'll find it !
I was sat out last night just before dusk watching a family of hares in one of my hay fields and a Barn owl slowly working it's way up through the marsh catching voles and taking them off to feed it's young,
i know for sure i'm not the most productive farmer, and can be prone to doing the bare minimum at times, but that doesn't bother me one bit, seeing those Hares and the Barn owl , just made me feel i'm doing something right, even if it means that sometimes doing nothing is the best thing to do,

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

"Its amazing here, it's like floating on a sea of wisdom with so many people just wanting to share their knowledge"

I think the Regen generation has begun.

There's @martian new advertising slogan, right there.....

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Works for me to .... i see too many headless chickens running around all stressed up, i don't know what it is they are chasing, and i doubt very much they'll find it !
I was sat out last night just before dusk watching a family of hares in one of my hay fields and a Barn owl slowly working it's way up through the marsh catching voles and taking them off to feed it's young,
i know for sure i'm not the most productive farmer, and can be prone to doing the bare minimum at times, but that doesn't bother me one bit, seeing those Hares and the Barn owl , just made me feel i'm doing something right, even if it means that sometimes doing nothing is the best thing to do,

When there is no enemy inside, the enemy outside cannot hurt you .

 

[Woolless]

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I keep thinking along these lines regarding the pandemic. Widespread concern about the major drop in GDP. My attitude is that a lower GDP is probably is best for the planet: less consumption, less flights, reduced commuting etc. Our measures of success need changed. The constant push for economic activity is a recipe for disaster. But who's going to tell China?

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

I keep thinking along these lines regarding the pandemic. Widespread concern about the major drop in GDP. My attitude is that a lower GDP is probably is best for the planet: less consumption, less flights, reduced commuting etc. Our measures of success need changed. The constant push for economic activity is a recipe for disaster. But who's going to tell China?

Did you see the DasGupta review earlier this year? He recommended we ditch GDP for that very reason.

 

[Macsky]

On the other hand we are only just beginning to understand the incredibly large number of planets in space, a proportion of which meet the basic physical and chemical criteria for life to be supported. That probably means that life in all it's diversity is inevitable somewhere. We could just be that somewhere.

Religion is a human construct. The rest of the planet really doesn't care....

Which planets meet the criteria for life?

 

[Kiwi Pete]

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Which planets meet the criteria for life?

I'll look for links. Life doesn't have to mean suitable for humans.

 

[Woolless]

If you are a classic Darwinian, you think all senses such being hungry, scared, wanting children etc are all evolutionarily beneficial, yet the the belief that there is 'more' has been shared by every culture on earth, there fore according to their own logic it must have reason behind it. Physics and Maths are revealing that this universe and life is massively improbable. A noble winning physicist (I can't remember who) in his later years made the observation, that, after years of studying the laws of the universe and the chances of it being random, seeing intelligence in those laws he concluded that there is intelligence behind it, having said this, when he reached this point he was surprised to find a large group of theologians saying, 'what took you so long to get here'.

I find it difficult to accept that my thoughts and emotions are simply chemical reactions and the universe is completely random, just an astrophysical coincidence. The obverse is that there is a divine spark in the universe and in all of us. I would consider myself an agnostic

 

[Woolless]

Did you see the DasGupta review earlier this year? He recommended we ditch GDP for that very reason.

No, I haven't seen that but not surprised they came to that conclusion. Must have a look.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

No, I haven't seen that but not surprised they came to that conclusion. Must have a look.

It really is a great piece of work. Be warned, it's about 600 pages!

 

[Macsky]

I'll look for links. Life doesn't have to mean suitable for humans.

If its not suitable for humans, it won’t be suitable for much else!

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

If its not suitable for humans, it won’t be suitable for much else!

There are bacteria living in smoking fumaroles on the deep ocean floor in highly human toxic environments. It is quite possible that life can thrive based on other chemistry than carbon and oxygen, it just won't look like ours. We all came from a bacterial soup originally which formed in conditions that would be toxic to us now.

Just because a planet wouldn't support humans doesn't mean it can't have complex life.

 

[Macsky]

There are bacteria living in smoking fumaroles on the deep ocean floor in highly human toxic environments. It is quite possible that life can thrive based on other chemistry than carbon and oxygen, it just won't look like ours. We all came from a bacterial soup originally which formed in conditions that would be toxic to us now.

Just because a planet wouldn't support humans doesn't mean it can't have complex life.

I admire your faith.

 

[Woolless]

It really is a great piece of work. Be warned, it's about 600 pages!

I'll read the executive summary!

 

[Rod Dumbreck]

Why does life on another planet have to have legs and run around shagging, intelligent life could exist as a fungal structure, connected over miles underground in deep discussion .

but where would you plug the USB?

 

[glasshouse]

The reason most people run about working like headless chickens is to pay interest or rent or both.
Perhaps they should be abolished.

 

[Kiwi Pete]