Pickup Engine

[Cowabunga]

But, you can claim the vat and various tax reliefs for your pickup and you can't for a car so for most folks on a budget the do it all pickup wins out. Legislation makes the pickup the choice of the farmer/builder who also needs a second vehicle for everyday family life when the option of buying two runarounds plus a seldom used utility vehicle is out of reach for two driver families.

You could buy a really really nice used family car, good for ten years of use, for a third of the price of a new pickup even after claiming its VAT back. Should that be acceptable.

 

[Cowabunga]

Not difficult but you must admit plenty do

Around here I would say 90% are work trucks, used by mainly farmers but with a good sprinkling of other tradesmen.

They are dual purpose vehicles of course so inevitably the cleaner ones are used socially or as main transport.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Pickup engines are also on the downsizing trend, many are 2.0 and below. However torque characteristics and duty cycles of some engines suit certain types of pickup.

There is little comparison to our European style pickup to that of say the Ford F-350.

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All hail the 7.3!!!??

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Not sure what your point is? A pickup is totally different to your little Nissan/based small family hatch. Can your car carry a ton? No. Can it tow 3.5 tons? No. Has it an open tray back so that a handler can load a bale or a tote bag into the back? No. Does it have sufficient room to carry a 14ft gate tied to the ladder rack? No.

Apples and oranges.

And my sister says "why the hell dont you buy a puckup "
Because i dont need a pickup

 

[Derrick Hughes]

But, you can claim the vat and various tax reliefs for your pickup and you can't for a car so for most folks on a budget the do it all pickup wins out. Legislation makes the pickup the choice of the farmer/builder who also needs a second vehicle for everyday family life when the option of buying two runarounds plus a seldom used utility vehicle is out of reach for two driver families.

You can on a car if its all business

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Abd that Touareg Crap would be stuck there

 

[TripleSix]

Ain't no replacement for displacement, ain't no substitute for cubes.

Turbochargers are making the power from modern engines now, up to 50psi of boost!

Landrover TDI ran 8psi if memory serves me right, just to put that in perspective.

A Cummins 6BT 5.9l is easily capable of a million miles without overhaul in 200hp form in a pickup.

I wouldn't like to bet a 2 litre 250hp engine would be capable of those miles without a rebuild or 2.
But it's obviously got higher efficiency and lower consumption and emissions.


Saying that, the VW PD is capable of mega miles when looked after...

 

[Cowabunga]

And my sister says "why the hell dont you buy a puckup "
Because i dont need a pickup

Well, if you don't need one, ignore your sister. Just drive whatever you are happy driving. Nobody else really counts unless you have regular passengers that don't find a particular vehicle comfortable.

 

[76masseyman]

I thought the saying was “There’s no replacement for displacement” ?

That’s why I have a 4.6L v8 ?

Enjoyed the day my mate turned up in a Ranger with the 3.2L in it. Told him he’d bought half an engine !!
Then took him for a spin in my 6.4L ( 390 ci ) Ford. Anything less than 4L is a milk carton.

 

[Canada Farmer]

The Americans have a saying "you can't beat cube" and I guess that still holds true certainly with LGVs that have huge engines that are hardly used

A better question might be, if you don't regularly tow big weights on the road, do you even need a pick up truck?

You can get the F150 with EcoBoost 2.7's and 3.5's ,the 2.7 is compareable in most situations as the Coyote powered 5.0.

 

[glasshouse]

I suspect he was referring to those who use a pick up as a car .

Company car tax and vat mean there are lots more pickups

 

[Phil P]

Enjoyed the day my mate turned up in a Ranger with the 3.2L in it. Told him he’d bought half an engine !!
Then took him for a spin in my 6.4L ( 390 ci ) Ford. Anything less than 4L is a milk carton.

People always ask would I not be better of with something more economical? I always say It’s smiles to the gallon not miles ?. Plus there’s just something about the sound of a v8, especially a 7500revs?

 

[76masseyman]

People always ask would I not be better of with something more economical? I always say It’s smiles to the gallon not miles ?. Plus there’s just something about the sound of a v8, especially a 7500revs?

In the historic class mine, no tax, no mot, just fuel and go, so economical in one respect. Only used on sunny days.

 

[76masseyman]

Company car tax and vat mean there are lots more pickups

Does seem strange to me that a person with a company car averaging 50mpg, pays more company car tax than the pickup driver doing a lot less mpg.

 

[Farmer Roy]

A better question might be, if you don't regularly tow big weights on the road, do you even need a pick up truck?

You could argue that “pickups” were never originally designed as tow vehicles anyway

They were designed for carrying a load in the back & occupants in relative comfort in the front. For which they are extremely & eminently practical
Hence the tub or flat tray on the back . . .
for carrying things . . .

obviously, we don’t do the whole trailer thing like the UK does, but anyone here in need of a serious tow vehicle generally goes for the 200 series Landcruiser or the V8 Patrol wagons . . .

 

[glasshouse]

You could argue that “pickups” were never originally designed as tow vehicles anyway

They were designed for carrying a load in the back & occupants in relative comfort in the front. For which they are extremely & eminently practical
Hence the tub or flat tray on the back . . .
for carrying things . . .

obviously, we don’t do the whole trailer thing like the UK does, but anyone here in need of a serious tow vehicle generally goes for the 200 series Landcruiser or the V8 Patrol wagons . . .

Out of intrest, what is the price of a 200 series landcruiser? In oz?
Discontinued here

 

[Farmer Roy]

Out of intrest, what is the price of a 200 series landcruiser? In oz?
Discontinued here

they start at around $80K up to well over $100K

 

[glasshouse]

they start at around $80K up to well over $100K

What is the $80k version like?
They only sold the top luxury one here till 2012

 

[Farmer Roy]

What is the $80k version like?
They only sold the top luxury one here till 2012

still pretty good, just has steel wheels instead of alloys & not as high a level of trim / gadgets inside - still fairly well specced though

LandCruiser 200 | The 4WD Legend Continues | Toyota AU

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Just like all the 4wd utes / twin cab “pickups” - they all come in a wide range of model specification from “basic” work vehicles through to all the bling & fancy wheels you can throw at them . . .

There is a reasonable need / customer base here for things like the 200 series Toyota’s that definitely ISNT a luxury market

just like the 4wd utes . . .

 

[glasshouse]

still pretty good, just has steel wheels instead of alloys & not as high a level of trim / gadgets inside - still fairly well specced though

LandCruiser 200 | The 4WD Legend Continues | Toyota AU

The era of the LandCruiser 200 is coming to an end. Relive the highlights of the Best Upper Large SUV 2020 winner and discover the next generation here.

www.toyota.com.au

Just like all the 4wd utes / twin cab “pickups” - they all come in a wide range of model specification from “basic” work vehicles through to all the bling & fancy wheels you can throw at them . . .

There is a reasonable need / customer base here for things like the 200 series Toyota’s that definitely ISNT a luxury market

just like the 4wd utes . . .

There is also a need for such vehicles here too, but it isnt catered for as they only offer the high end luxury version of toyotas landcruisers till very recently.
I see they dont fo the gx with 7 seats sadly
Is there gst or vat type tax on them?