Pickup speed limits

[dave mountain]

I believe the pinnacle of 4WD's from an engineering, style and reliability is the legendary FJ40.

Yep completely agree, land rovers were unreliable junk even in their infancy, although granted they did have a price advantage back then

 

[Pistonbroke]

Never ever been an issue,


in my S3 landy!

When I was young and dull I got our s3 diesel( with overdrive ) up to 87 mph down a steep dual carriageway,at which point both sliding windows fell out

 

[Red Fred]

When I was young and dull I got our s3 diesel( with overdrive ) up to 87 mph down a steep dual carriageway,at which point both sliding windows fell out

I remember them being like Chuck Yeager breaking the sound barrier in The Right Stuff. As you approached hyperspace drive, the dials would all go wild with the speedo fluctuating from 11 to 140 mph, and someone would shout "I can't hold her, she's breaking up". Then everything would go still as it reached terminal velocity at 42mph.

 

[Pistonbroke]

I remember them being like Chuck Yeager breaking the sound barrier in The Right Stuff. As you approached hyperspace drive, the dials would all go wild with the speedo fluctuating from 11 to 140 mph, and someone would shout "I can't hold her, she's breaking up". Then everything would go still as it reached terminal velocity at 42mph.

There was another film at the time( a bit like airplane ) where the line was " we're breaking wind at 90!!!" . Nearly wasn't just wind

 

[steveR]

I remember them being like Chuck Yeager breaking the sound barrier in The Right Stuff. As you approached hyperspace drive, the dials would all go wild with the speedo fluctuating from 11 to 140 mph, and someone would shout "I can't hold her, she's breaking up". Then everything would go still as it reached terminal velocity at 42mph.

And if the Driver was at one of the (then numerous) local County Ag college, the Landy would go straight on at the gentle bend at the end of the straight, and then tip over.... Vauxhall Nova's and the like did the same, but faster...

 

[steveR]

Safest thing in that circumstance if she's aware there are different limits is to drive to the lower limits . I thought you meant she was unaware of differing speed limits

Well, I am of the view nowadays, that her middle name should have been Ayrton.... which tells you all you need to know!

She was, and probably still is, unaware of any differing speed limits, like most of the population driving twin cabs! Happily no SAcottish NIPs have arrived.... yet!

 

[TripleSix]

This isn't quite right, it's nothing to do with 2wd or 4wd, it's whether it's a dual purpose vehicle or not. Hence double cabs pickups and double cab transit vans etc can have the higher limit (subject to weight, vehicle tax class etc) single cab vans and pickups will always have the lower limit as they aren't dual purpose vehicles, regardless of 2wd or 4wd.

You're wrong.

Sorry.

A single cab pickup if it's 4wd is a dual purpose vehicle - provided it's under 2040kgs unladen.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Well, I am of the view nowadays, that her middle name should have been Ayrton.... which tells you all you need to know!

She was, and probably still is, unaware of any differing speed limits, like most of the population driving twin cabs! Happily no SAcottish NIPs have arrived.... yet!

On the red line and s**t loads of left foot braking???

 

[dave mountain]

You're wrong.

Sorry.

A single cab pickup if it's 4wd is a dual purpose vehicle - provided it's under 2040kgs unladen.

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Your trying to tell me that a single cab is built for carrying passengers (in the eyes of the tax man)? I wish that was so, but try buying one and doing 70 on a dual carriageway, you will be disappointed by the speeding tickets. Single cabs are 60mph regardless of drivetrain. Unfortunately we don't get 2wd double cab pickups like Australia does so most of that government guidance is irrelevant, unless you are considering double cab cabstars etc, which everyonw knows have the lower limit.

 

[Robt]

If your pick up is taxed as plg it's fine if its taxed as commercial then different speeds apply,however I've never seen a lorry doing 10 mph less than the average speed cameras allow in motorway road work sections etc so not sure how often its enforced

Wrong

 

[robs1]

Wrong

Which bit ?

 

[steveR]

On the red line and s**t loads of left foot braking???

Does that work in an auto???

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Does that work in an auto???

Makes no difference if it's manual or auto....

 

[Northern territory]

This isn't quite right, it's nothing to do with 2wd or 4wd, it's whether it's a dual purpose vehicle or not. Hence double cabs pickups and double cab transit vans etc can have the higher limit (subject to weight, vehicle tax class etc) single cab vans and pickups will always have the lower limit as they aren't dual purpose vehicles, regardless of 2wd or 4wd.

That’s what I thought

 

[steveR]

This isn't quite right, it's nothing to do with 2wd or 4wd, it's whether it's a dual purpose vehicle or not. Hence double cabs pickups and double cab transit vans etc can have the higher limit (subject to weight, vehicle tax class etc) single cab vans and pickups will always have the lower limit as they aren't dual purpose vehicles, regardless of 2wd or 4wd.

The important bit highlighted above

 

[Johnnyboxer]

And the L200 is restricted to 60mph on a motorway/dual carriageway if it’s towing a small trailer.
Who knew?

So's a car, towing is 60mph on a DC

 

[Johnnyboxer]

My Ranger V5 says MiS is 2166, so lower limits apply.

Define MiS? it's a combination of kerb weight (incl 90% fuel load and all water/oils), plus a 75kg allowance for a driver

Unladen weight, is the key in the uk legislation of the 2040kgs ruling, MiS is a red herring on our v5C's

Unladen and MiS (a european term) are totally different weights

 

[Lincoln75]

So I can do 70mph on motorways in our old L200 ?

 

[steveR]

Define MiS? it's a combination of kerb weight (incl 90% fuel load and all water/oils), plus a 75kg allowance for a driver

Unladen weight, is the key in the uk legislation of the 2040kgs ruling, MiS is a red herring on our v5C's

Unladen and MiS (a european term) are totally different weights

That is an issue I could not understand JB.

Ford has a wide range of differing and varied weights, even for the same model. So where on earth is teh definitive Unladen weight to be found??

 

[Johnnyboxer]

That is an issue I could not understand JB.

Ford has a wide range of differing and varied weights, even for the same model.

So where on earth is the definitive Unladen weight to be found??

You can't, it's not quoted in their literature, kerb weight is only talked about
Unladen weight is an old anachronism, peculiar to the UK, now superseded by the euro terminology of 'Mass in Service'